Deleterious

Casey had a ton of problems while the coach here. But I will say this for him. His teams never looked like that. Even towards the end of the year when full tank mode was enabled, they played hard and gave effort.

Now give us your prediction for the second half.

Ish Smith the rim protector?

4th year of the rebuild is worse than the 1st. That is all you need to know.

Something to shoot for.

I can't really find anything about him lowering prices or even losing money on it. But he did pay a massive price socially. What a joke. https://truthout.org/articles/private-equity-is-using-prison-phone-food-and-health-systems-to-rack-up-profits/

Gores isn't selling. Forbes values the Pistons at $3B and the Pacers at $2.9B. Pacers just sold 15% of their team at a valuation of $3.4B. So you can make a great argument the Pistons are worth $3.5B. Get a bidding war and $4B isn't out of the question. Gores paid $350M 12 years ago. He 10X his investment in 12 years. 3X in 12 years is damn good, and he did 10. On top of that, Forbes reports an operating income of $83M. Now that isn't exactly profit, you still have to figure interest, taxes, etc. But they made a profit it appears. All that great financial news and he did it while being the worst owner in the league in those 12 years. They made all that money without winning a playoff game. Why would you sell? Only way I sell is if I am broke and need the money. Or I have a better investment to put my money into.

I don't want to argue. I am agreeing with you. ****ing Weaver.

As you have said before. Blown out and a lot of teams are sitting their best players.

They are worse in year 4 of the rebuild than they were in year 1. How is that possible?

Nice. I will have to try it sometime.

Spurs -7.5

Single Ivey > Married Ivey.

Can we at least agree that Livers sucks?

I don't even have the desire to argue. The pistons have broke me.

Other than Detroit making a beeline to the bottom left corner, Indiana stands out. That is a bad recipe come playoff time. Gotta play some defense in the playoffs.

27 points and 15 assists and zero turnovers for Haliburton tonight. He should be in the MVP race if this keeps up.

Cade would never drive if he stopped driving into 2-3 defenders. The question is. Why are opposing teams able to keep an extra defender or two in the paint area without being punished.

Their schedule till the end of the year. Where does the win come from? They better win one of the four against Atlanta, Utah, and Brooklyn. 22 Fri, Dec 8, 2023 7:00p @ Orlando Magic 23 Mon, Dec 11, 2023 7:00p Indiana Pacers 24 Wed, Dec 13, 2023 7:00p Philadelphia 76ers 25 Fri, Dec 15, 2023 7:00p @ Philadelphia 76ers 26 Sat, Dec 16, 2023 6:00p @ Milwaukee Bucks 27 Mon, Dec 18, 2023 7:30p @ Atlanta Hawks 28 Thu, Dec 21, 2023 7:00p Utah Jazz 29 Sat, Dec 23, 2023 7:30p @ Brooklyn Nets 30 Tue, Dec 26, 2023 7:00p Brooklyn Nets 31 Thu, Dec 28, 2023 7:30p @ Boston Celtics 32 Sat, Dec 30, 2023 6:00p Toronto Raptors

Here is my thing with Weaver. I think he has drafted half way decent. Cade and Ivey have talent. I hate the position he plays, but Duren has talent and it was a nice move to land him. Even if he never gets a jump shot, Thompson will contribute just based on his elite defense/rebounding. Weaver has done a terrible job at filling in the roster with free agency and trades. Bojan was a decent move, but he even has some big flaws. But lets just concede him being a nice move. Name another player on this roster who contributes that Weaver brought in via trade or free agency. I realize Stewart could technically be called a trade. But IMO if you trade for a guy before he plays his first NBA game, you drafted him.

I feel bad for the kids. I was in middle/high school when the Bad Boys won. Nothing better than going into school the day after a big playoff win and talking about it with your buddies at school. A few months after getting my drivers license, my first big driving adventure was taking my friends down to The Palace for the ceremony after one of the parades. A high school kid today has never seen the Pistons win a title. But wait, there's more! For 3 easy payments of $29.99 you can also get 0 playoff series wins in their lifetime. And for a limited time we will throw in at no extra charge...0 playoff game won! No wonder people watch soccer.