Deleterious

2nds are useless.

Interesting to see how they list the new guys on the injury report. Fournier and Flynn are out because trade pending. Brown and Milton are questionable because the trade is pending. Maybe their guys are closer to taking their physical to get the trade approved. Obviously, Grimes is listed as out.

Yeah, this is exactly why I don't think the asset management argument is good. Bojan got about what was expected. Even if you disagree you have to give him credit for acquiring him in the first place for peanuts. Bagley and Plumlee were sent out for second round picks. Don't give a **** about those. The Dedmon thing is funny but it was strategic. It actually had to be done to complete their FA signings which landed them Grant. https://theathletic.com/2212237/2020/11/21/pistons-nba-free-agency-opening-day/ The Bey pick was bad, but that falls under poor drafting to me. So semantics there I guess. But if you prefer to call it poor asset management thats fine. I like the Stewart move. I can disagree with one of your complaints about Weaver and still think he has done a poor job.

I mean, people around here thought Bojan was bringing back multiple firsts. Stars almost never bring back unprotected lottery picks. A guy like Grant never does. Was the Bucks pick a bit low? Probably. But didn't the Duren trade happen right away? Or a day or two after? So while the pick was low, it appears he had a plan in place to improve it.

I don't remember the first year offers for Grant. I put it in Google now and all I get is the actual trade with Portland.

This is my big issue with him as well.

Which assets were wasted?

It's only 4 games but we need to grasp onto any hope we can.

On court development is important. But one of these guys developing into the team leader is also important.

He had lottery talent with a second round brain/maturity level. Glad to see he maybe figured it out.

His defense was way overrated.

I like to think Tellum and Gores were responsible for past seasons and have now let Weaver do his job. Probably not but oh well.

The Portland broadcast posted a neat graphic during the game. They showed what percentage of a teams minutes have gone to their rookies. League average is 7%, Pistons are 15%, Portland is 30%.

Pretty hard to endorse expansion when these two teams are just playing awful basketball.

I had turned the game off. Somehow they got this into OT.

On one hand, Ivey is 5-5 from three with three minutes left in the third. On the other hand, he has more TO's (6) than 3PT shots made.

Definitely some coaching/scheme problems. Like Betrayer keeps saying, the drop coverage they run just sucks. But he also looks scared to challenge people at the rim.

How many turnovers did the Pistons have in the backcourt that half?

Hey Monty. Go to Youtube and watch some Rip Hamilton highlights. Just steal the damn plays and have Ivey run them. Speed is his weapon and you have him standing still every time he is off ball. You make it easy to guard him. Stop.