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I feel like they rid themselves of Kenta at the right time. I think they have dug themselves too big of a hole to save this season, but they also aren’t gonna lose 100 games. Not that it really matters. Losing 80 or losing 100 still leaves us watching more football than we would like.

I think the positive part is that the team we root for was the clear probabilistic favorite a month ago so things can obviously change quickly. But I also wouldn’t ignore the possibility of a playoff appearance coming via the wildcard. It’s a substantial part of that 1 in 5 chance. The rest of the AL has been pretty poor relatively speaking. All that said, 1 in 5 is not what anyone would call a good chance, and it sucks to be here already on Memorial Day. Not what anyone signed up for. Release Zack Short.

It’s pretty wild to me that even as of today the tigers are still about 1 in 5 chance of making the playoffs. A lot can still change in the next two months, and there will be a lot more clarity where all teams stand and who may or may not be able to justify being involved in a Skubal trade (including the tigers).

Thanks, but I’m probably missing something because this feels like a very different hypothetical. Corbin Burnes had TJ last year during a season where he wasn’t all that impressive after signing a big deal and he’s got an opt out / opt in after this season. I think it’s hard to picture Burnes returning from injury and performing well enough to become an asset comparable to what we expect Skubal to be. But I think the bigger issue is that it seems almost impossible that the tigers could be even remotely close to a buying scenario. That said, if we make all of the assumptions necessary to create a comparable situation and tigers are now true buyers at the end of July and they have the necessary room under the tax, I think I’d absolutely consider including Rainer. It’s hard to think I would be willing to move Clark, but I guess due to needing a lot of assumptions made here, if Parker meadows returned from injury and looks like the guy we thought we might have at the end of 2024, and Burnes is pitching like NL Skubal and the tigers are clear favorites to the win the division, I’d definitely think about it. I think it’s easier to just dream about a few years down the road and consider what you might do when Skenes is a FA to be and hits the trade block.

I think if any GM is unwilling to give more value than that (assuming he returns in mid June and makes 6+ weeks worth of Skubal-level starts), then they should all lose their jobs. The value of that pick is a guy in the back end of a team’s top 10.

I don’t think I could estimate what a collective group might be expecting, but I do think we may have something close to an actual efficiently operating market when it comes to selling Skubal, because I don’t think anyone is going to be able to get away with making a lowball offer and expecting it to be accepted because of a lack of better offers. This is not Eduardo or Jack Flaherty. A team cannot go elsewhere and get another comparable version. But yeah, of course there will be a limit. The easiest thing to do in these cases is to simply try and put yourself in the other side‘s position. If Paul Skenes is on the market in the same situation three years from now, and the tigers are contending, would I be open to them trading last year’s McGonigle? Maybe. I wouldn’t have done it for Mason miller, as much as I like him. So it’s always going to come down to specific needs and personalities.

I don’t think there are nearly enough comparable circumstances to be able to draw any conclusions about a potential Skubal deal could look like. It’s true that we have not seen many elite prospects traded at deadlines. But we have seen those types of guys traded in offseason moves. So from a general willingness standpoint, it’s there. Limiting it to deadline only moves really cuts your sample size down. But for that matter, we did see Leo De Vries moved for Miller last deadline. Of course Mason miller and Tarik Skubal are different assets. If you want to argue to prove a point t you will say that Miller last deadline is far more valuable than Skubal this deadline. Maybe. Anyway, trades are hard. So I’m not surprised at all that it is hard to point to the same type of deal being made recently. But I also think it’s rare for a “best pitcher in baseball” type to ever be available at deadlines, so that’s probably a big reason this would be uncharted waters. The nice thing, if it were to come to pass, is that I don’t think the list of potential trade partners would be short. There is no issue of replacing a current guy in a lineup. You are subbing a legit ace for your fifth best starter. Thankfully this decision is still two months away.

You didn’t seriously cite Kerry and gleyber May numbers. I’m not disputing your conclusion. This team is ass right now. But come on, bro.

Today? Nothing.

Which team had the most recent series win? Tigers or Pistons? Technically, it’s the tigers, because their last series win occurred Sunday night, May 3. The Pistons played Sunday afternoon that day when they beat the magic.

Which mispronunciation? Gratiot, or the GAH-din Enn?

I like to park down near campus martius. I like the walk up Woodward or Randolph or Brush. Jacoby’s is down there. More importantly, the walk down after the game is nice, and then jumping right onto Lafayette->Lodge is clean. Folks like to park at the MGM for free and hoof it over, but that is far less charming.

No, they just sent Jim Joyce out there to counter that.

I think if they want to tweak the settings they can just adjust the ball within their wide tolerance band a bit between seasons to account for the ebb and flow of the player pool. This is what they have already been doing to suit their desired outcomes already, isn’t it? If I remember correctly they did it midseason a few years back to juice homers.

I think if anything it’s self-motivating. I don’t see it at as a dig at the tigers in the slightest. I suspect now that he got that real 40-man spot he’s probably pretty happy and excited. I’m sure he knows he’s ticketed for a return to Toledo at some point soon given how many guys are on the IL. But he probably also feels pretty secure against a DFA, and that 40-man spot means he’s going to be getting these promotions more frequently. I don’t think a guy like Jung feels similarly now that workman has those 40-man bona fides.

In youth travel baseball “sub” players often wear #99 (it’s the extra uniform without a name that most teams have for such situations), so I could see workman leaning into that in an ironic way. When he was selected in the rule 5 by the cubs I remember him (and his wife) being kind of salty about the whole situation, so I feel like he might be doing a bit.

I think this makes sense but it’s also something that could probably be documented fairly easily via those “umpire scorecard” things. I’d be very interested to see if this is actually true or not. For it to be true, it would mean that umpires knew they were calling a bad zone before and only now are calling a better one. And that could definitely be true. Umpires are stubborn. I’m sure the data is there. Or there may be some other reason for walls being up and aka being level relative to last year. Could just be that the pitchers are worse.

I would think that all else being equal, a increase in walks would increase scoring, of course. Are strikeouts down? I’m surprised that batters would necessarily be the ones to use the challenge system to their advantage relative to pitchers. And I’m also surprised that umpires would call the zone differently to the batter’s benefit now that challenges are a threat. I guess we will see.

Is it true that ABS is expected to increase scoring?

Does this include extra inning attempts with the placed runner on second?

I kind of feel like when you suck like McKinstry sucks, does it matter that you suck against both lefties and righties equally?

I live too far from Detroit to get Fox over the air without a lot of trouble. And I don’t subscribe to anything that includes Fox. So I don’t have access unless someone else logs into my tv. However, I can watch the dodgers on FOX broadcast just fine via mlb.tv. I’m watching McGreevy pitch to pages right now. They did away with the weird Fox national blackout thing for the game being shown outside of your market. So the Tigers should be available to you via mlb.tv.

Fortunately Jansen only threw 11 pitches last night closing out the game so he will be available again today. I think my app is buggy though because it does not give Skubal the win, and as far as I know we don’t have a pitcher named Lopez. Gonna look into it.

Yes, the is the boring and obvious solution, especially if McKinstry is nearing a return (and it sounds like he is). I think it certainly means they aren’t going to put a guy like gage workman on the 40 for such a short term need. Same goes for potential Mize replacements. I hear sammons name thrown around and that just isn’t happening. If sammons is called up I will eat my hat (nacho hats allowed).

The boring part of speculating is it could be for naught within the next few hours, so it hardly feels worth it. That said, it’s a low bar. So, I will say that I’m not sure a hot start by workman so far this year is enough to justify a 40-man spot, and I think Scott Harris is “loathe” to give those up without good reason. We know that Clark is likely to occupy a 40-man spot in the near future anyway, and for a long time to come. If you add workman now, that requires a move. If you add Clark in six weeks, that requires another move. I’m not sure giving a 40-man spot to workman for what might be a short term need is worth it. As for Clark being “ready,” I’m not going to put too much weight into GM speak. Even if they would prefer waiting, things changed last night. They can always send him back down when other options become available (and/or if he is struggling). He can play CF and bat 9th and we can see what happens.