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Well the President says we need to move on and his AG, under oath, deflects to the stock market. So no, I’m not going to go along with attempts to “both sides” this.

And they knew about it. LBJ was bugging planes and phones. He went to the majority leader and called it Treason. But they couldn’t say anything because they were illegally bugging. Then Johnson calls Nixon and they do a verbal dance and a game of “I know that you know that I know…”. of course the question is whether they really would have had a deal. But Nixon and Kissinger sabatoged a potential deal for political purposes.

I always thought it was sawdust.

Was it his brothers wife or wife’s sister?

Not when you are drunk

Yeah upper floor condos but a Turkish coffee shop, a dessert place, and halal pizza. Not to be confused with the Yemeni coffee place 3 doors down or the other dessert place next door. Around the front is one of 4 chicken joints within 1/4 mile

My adult special needs son pays for all the streaming services so we basically have everything, including old fashioned cable. But I find I suffer from "I only care what else is available". Give me access to a movie and I don't care to watch... the minute it's locked out, then I want it. Or i just end up watching a PBS Ken Burns or AMC Stories channel on Prime that just shows stuff in endless loops. There is a physical media movement out there still and part of it is pushback on all of this. You could spend $200 a year on a streaming service to watch a handful of movies over that time... or just buy them.

especially the genitals of high schoolers... it's almost as if.... you know....

I wonder what Al Gore would have done in '08 if Obama didn't burst out on the scene in '04. He's a good comp to Nixon given he lost/won such a close race and had a strained relationship with his President. Gore had the sword of Damocles having over his head in the form of Clinton's personal troubles. Nixon had Ike's "Give me some time and I will think of something" in response to a question on Nixon's contributions. It's hard to thread "Things are great but here's how I'm different"

I could share the story about the guy in Texas who shot and killed his daughter because they were arguing about Trump. She too was a pretty blond girl.

The former.

Whenever I refer Presidential precedent I don't like to do so before FDR. It really was a different office before him, then again before Lincoln. More administrative in nature. And like you say the media angle. Also the nature of how they were elected matters. I like to imagine a scenario in 1991 where you tell the dems at the time "Bush can be beat". Would that have changed anything? Clinton muscled through but some others may have not bothered thinking Bush's 90% approval rating wasn't worth the hassle at that point in time. Mondale was really the best example of a retread candidate in recent history. VP on a ticket that lost re-election? Really? You can't do better?

I know what that is... our friends daughter is Chinese.

You have PLAS, Pedophile Love Affair Syndrome.

I"ve only played that when I'm drunk and I'm not sure what we were doing. We probably just made up our game.

Wayne County is probably on par with Chicago in terms of corruption, perceived and real. Layers and layers of people. Wayne County probably has the airport as a big source of that corruption. There's been so many scandals over the years. I know someone who was involved but got out because he basically had two jobs and got paid for one. The first was his job itself. The second was having to support the right people at fundraisers and all of that. Going to events and rallies. You had to be seen. If not your job was in trouble or you'd not get any kind of advancement unless you helped the others get their jobs.

When the focus is on the person doing the crime instead of the object availability that makes doing the crime easier to carry out, then yes, I will reference that in my judgement. 'The availability of guns is a problem' vs 'Look at what these queers are doing'. This isn't difficult. But I know for the 2nd amendment whack jobs, price of freedom bro

He was very good in that. Good observation, I never thought about that. Any other year he probably wins the Oscar for that but DeNiro in Raging Bull. A few weeks ago I finally got around to watching The Conversation and didn't know he was in it. I think he was not billed for it, it was meant to be a surprise to the viewers. Speaking of the Bobs... Duvall never became a caricature like Al and the others. And his movie, he wrote and directed and financed, The Apostle, stands apart as they never did anything as good themselves.

ha ha... that's not what I meant, I was focusing on the 'That's it?' portion.

and our league that catcher was my 31 year old pregnant wife! We're just out on a Sunday afternoon having fun and moving around and waiting for the post game BBQ and beers. The league ended after a season where a team was put together run by someone affiliated with the local HS. He recruited some of the graduated softball players. So yeah.... the girls were better than most guys. We had a rule in place that if you walked a man, he goes to 2B and the woman coming to bat (the batting lineups alternated) could go to 1B immediately. My last year in softball overall ended because at that point in our lives it was hard to find players. Not worth the hassle. The bar that sponsored us burned down in 2014 (Howell's, @Motor City Sonics probably remembers that fine place).

I didn't like Clinton back then, I tolerate him now, but if he's in the files, he can go to. Dems aren't clinging to him the same way the the GOP are with Trump.

Jesse Jackson passed away. Let's not do politics here, but he was notable. I just got back from Chicago and was in Millenium Park thinking about the night Obama won and they showed Jackson with tears in his eyes. I was thinking of that literally yesterday morning. I'm not making it political, just talking about the coincidence of things like that.

Mostly except in shuffleboard you get counted based on the zone yours are in. In Curling it's just the # of rocks, regardless of where they are at. As long as they are closer than their best one it counts as 1.

I have 3 FB friends who are done with him and the GOP over it. For whatever metric that's worth. The two big names politically associated to this have been Trump and Clinton. The meme said "One said we have to move on, the other is willing to bring the fight to the public". Which one of those two do you think is innocent?

We get it. You are a bigot and extremely hateful person. You don't need to keep reminding us. Go back in the woods and play with a goat.