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yup. To me, Lorenzen was the more valuable piece and we got one high A player for him. Have to assume what was on the table for ERod was a step down from that.

Justice system in the US can't seem to do anything at a reasonable speed. I guess there is too much money to be made in a system that can burn legal billable hours the way this one does. And since legislators are lawyers, they will never reform the system to end the gravy train.

of course. But I tend to believe most teams are negotiating from value models that end up looking fairly similar. And to pick up on the general idea - maybe if we knew what LA had offered we'd be underwhelmed enough not to care that the deal fell through! As catalogued in this thread, there are reasons to suspect ERod's (and his contract's) value perception around the league was not as high as we might have hoped.

True. Maybe the lesson for Harris is don't get too greedy? If he could have made a deal for a little less return with a team that wasn't on ERod's NT list, and didn't - the lession would be to give enough weight to the value of being in control of the situation instead leaving yourself at risk to factors you don't control.

He season numbers looks very good to us because he was lights out for a run of six starts in April/May. But in his last 7 starts his has given up 4 or more four times. IOW, if you are looking for a guy who is hot right now for your stretch run, ERod is maybe not so much.

The comments on the Dodger's side sounded real to me - they felt burned. The leads me to think this was not just the outline of a deal which might have been part of a leverage negotiation that didn't go anywhere because Baltimore or whoever the real target was didn't bite; but rather they had a done deal and ERod backed out at the very last minute leaving both teams with nowhere to go as the clock ran out. What we don't know is how the 'fault' lies between Harris' office, the Dodger FO, ERod's agent, and ERod himself. The Dodgers said they had been talking with the agent. That fact probably absolves Harris to at least some degree. He has no reason to think he'd be hearing anything different from ERod's camp if he had a second line of communication open - and in fact maybe he was in the loop and hearing all the same things the Dodgers were - that is - "we have a deal." It's also possible the Dodgers were assuming more in what the agent said than he intended i.e. - they misled themselves in some part- possible, but that's seems less likely. Most likely either the agent was blowing smoke assuming he knew what his client wanted when he didn't, or ERod crossed the agent up as well. Either way, from management's perspective you have player who has burned some bridges in terms of teams being interesting in dealing with him in the future. I'd expect ERod to have a new agent before opt out time - either because the agent isn't interested in retaining the client and/or because the client knows he needs to rehabilitate his credibility.

Since Mid-May his OPS against is 738 and his WHIP is 1.35. Not great, and I expect both to rise as the Tigers start to crater - both play sloppier as a team and probably do more position experiments with guys that can't field which will drive up the length of innings and pitcher stress and push up everyone's runs against. On the plus side, since they didn't move any relievers, at least there won't be additional pressure to leave starters in the game to higher run totals. In any case - I don't expect ERod to finish the year with performance numbers anywhere near as gaudy as those he began the season with, the net result of that plus last year plus what just happened today being that quite possibly he will not find the world beathing a path to his door for more than $16M/yr. Long story short, I think the odds are good he is our problem until this contract runs it's course.

OK - lets say it's "Eduardo - are you certain that there is nothing that hasn't been considered that might prevent you being comfortable (seems to be the term of art here) with a move to LA?"

Manning not sharp, but little matter as the offense was AWOL again.

The whole saga with ERod is so obsure that who knows? Maybe they love him, maybe they are tired of his act and don't really care if he stays. Assume the latter premise and you could understand the Tigers at this point regarding the current contract as sunk cost and deciding they are not going to offer him any more money or years in return for him staying. But we won't know until Oct.

Close again. Tork needs to schedule an extra 15 min or so in the weight room per week......🤷‍♂️

so in effect they will will wait to see if he opts out and join the queue to sign him as a FA, maybe.

And maybe the whole thing could have been avoided if Harris says: "Eduardo, have you spoken to your wife?" Now sure, that's pure invention, but there is a kernel of truth in the fact that part of successful leadership is to think for your subordinates of the things they could be forgeting.

no shutout tonight

So Eduardo not only doesn't talk to the team to let them know what he is doing, he apparently doesn't talk to his wife either? Could be how he got into that situation last year....😱

Whether it involves an extension or just a buy out, the only way to preserve roster value with ERod now is some kind of deal to keep him from opting out. I don't have any objection on baseball grounds, he's a reasonable piece of a rotation and it's hard to escape the feeling that the apparent pitching depth we see right now is going to evaporate into career ending (re)injuries.

Seriously? His detachment is Henning's critique? What could be less relevant? I couldn't give a rat's asz about the GM's emotional involvement if he puts a winning team on the field. Does he think Dombrowski wasn't 'clinical'? i'll take a cold blooded executioner in that job more than a fan any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Ha - you are correct, those are older numbers - that's the 5 yr average from 2013 to 2017 from ESPN. But maybe the disconnect is you are looking at HR and I'm looking at scoring? They seem to be uncoupled at Dodger stadium. On statcast just now it looks like in the last 25 yrs Didger stadium has only played in the red for RUNS 3 times, though two were recent. ergo --> pitcher's park. (They did cut down on the foul territory in 2005 but looking at the chart it doesn't look to have have made an obvious difference.) Interestingly, HR are way up recently, ergo --> hitter's park. Take your pick! https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderboard/statcast-venue?venueId=22

THUD

Correct. An incitement case based on the speech was always going to be a bridge too far. The SS saved his butt by not letting him go to the Hill. If he had, he would have gone down for insurrection just like his ~500 best friends.

No doubt because the House adjuorned without doing any appropriations work.

one more down.

If the question is "must" the answer is "none"

0.894 for scoring. Good for 28th place this year. Day games not so much but night games in SoCal will be cooler than most other places in mid-summer. CA does get a lot of El Nino effect, so it's going to get less predictable as climate cycles get more erratic.

Have the Yankee make any moves. Possible east coast team in play.