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Jim Brown was a man playing among boys. You'll never see that kind of skill and strength disparity again because the level of athleticism is so much higher across the board in pro football ( and pro sports in general), than it was in Brown's day. A day when half the players in the league were still working summer jobs.

any chance Stroud declares for the draft?

Speaking of Valenti, he should be in fun form this week. He had himself convinced MSU was going to give OSU a game....

to be honest with you Tater, I'm the kind of fan you are talking about, and to me each day says more and more that college football is going to be transitioning into something quite different than what it has been (at least in the B10) and until the future clarifies a little I don't mind if they are just treading water for a few years until whatever new landscape appears and they figure out where and if they even have a place in it. A lot of people are going try hard to maintain some semblance of something that continues to be recognizable as intercollegiate sports. But in the end if they fail and we end up with nothing more than the NFL V0.25, it's going to lose whatever place it had in the overall life of the institution.

didn't take long for Jackson to try and answer your question...

I love the guy in the booth roasting Boyle.

where did that come from?

Semi-serious question: Is it fair to expect a FO and coaching staff to be able to build a team that can win at least 1 game even if they had had to build the entire roster off the waiver wire in August?

Exactly. White America hardly needs to legally discriminate against blacks because once or twice a century it manipulates the system to deny them whatever wealth they start to accumulate. Whether the rise of Jim Crow, Wilson denying them access to civil service, factory work moving to the suburbs where there is no public transit, or the really big one of my lifetime, abandoning investment in central cities where black homeowners held whatever equity they had accumulated in their homes and so wiping out any nascent black middle class there.

more projection

true, coaches and AP both bumped ND past UM.

One for two.

yeah - but what they expect probably has close to zero to do with what will happen! But going back to Buddha's argument, it's true Correa is younger but what I care about is how long you sign the guy for relative to his current age - or better put, how old is he at the end of the deal. If I can get Baez or Story on deal that doesn't end with them any older than the deal I would have to give Correa, then I'm OK with it. IOW to me Correa for 10 is a worse deal to walk into than Story or Baez for 6, esp at equal or greater AAV.

The winner of the UM/OSU games loses to Wisconsin in the Championship game - Cinci and ND both make it.

they need guys that can forecheck and/or take pucks away from the other team. When you can't get the puck back from the other team you can't do much and it's a skill the wings lack.

I think any baseball player that takes an opt out at 30 on a contract that runs 7 more years at 9 figures is daylight crazy, but that doesn't mean I don't think it could happen. Still if I'm Chris Ilitch do want I to play Russian Roulette with the gamble the player doesn't get hurt or starts to fade enough in 3 yrs that the player declines the buyout? I guess it all comes down to how much the next guy willing to sign is willing to take. I suppose if you can get Baez for <<$200M you are going be a lot less inclined to offer $300M to Correa even with a buyout designed to be attractive. The idea being that any team with an analytics staff should have some idea of where the point is that they can use the dollars not spent on one guy to buy a greater amount of WAR with a addition somewhere else in the lineup.

If you were to look at some of the head to heads, like PSU and Maryland, you might think UM should at least have a shot against OSU. But it sure doesn't feel like it. To your larger point, the ground has been covered before, but you end up back with the truth that yes, 10 wins is a fair expectation ceiling for a UM program. UM isn't a top 5 kind of program on the field and has not consistently been one at any time in the modern era despite the poll voters always trying to put it there on paper. The difference is that for decades no other school in the B10 was either. OSU has just left the rest of the conference in the dust.

Well, Oregon and MSU have crashed and burned tonight. I'll be curious to see if ND leapfrogs UM and CInci to get into the 4th playoff berth. GTech is bad but 55-0 is still 55-0. Cinci won pretty big also over a better team, but there have to be a lot of 'people' out there that would like to get ND in the playoff.

wings give up another lead late, then give up the overtime winner on Arz very first rush.....

OSU had zero trouble with the MSU run game. They will probably sell out to stop ours as well. The 'might have been' for this season is how much better the M passing game might be now if Harbaugh hadn't kept it under wraps for 6 weeks. TBF probably still not good enough to go possession to possession against Stroud and that receiving corps. It is what it is, they are pretty special. M just doesn't have the horses in the passing game. The kids catching it today are talented but as a group they the lack the size to go up against stronger defenders.

This was about as good a game as these kids could play, which is all you can ask. They won't be able to stay with the OSU receivers next week, but we could always get lucky with a zebra crew that calls a lot of holding on OSU.....

In terms of being happy with their coaches, Bo was constantly criticized for being the heir of Woody's '3 yards and cloud of dust". He was far more lionized after he was gone than by us M fans at the time. Yes we were happy to have had a guy that turned the program around but always unhappy that he was such a stick in the mud strategically. But M always had that ability to sell a lot of seats and draw TV eyeballs which has given them a pretty nice economic advantage and they been able to use that for facilities and all so they've had a leg up on recruiting for a long time, but coach wise probably Gary Moeller might be the only coach we've ever had in my lifetime where you could say the coach brought much in the way of in game coaching or innovation in the way he brought a modern passing game to UM. Well, Rich Rod innovated but most of them didn't work well!

should have said the "O" but they've woken up again. It looked like they were going into sleep walk mode for a while there. Good game for McCarthy. And LOL - they have outscored OSU today!

Be interesting to see the line on the MSU/PSU game. I think I'd be picking PSU.

Maryland brings everyone up on 1st down. M doesn't bother to change the play. 2 yds. Then Edwards bails them out with 70 YAC.