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Case in point... Player Framber Valdez $36,466,899.38 Tarik Skubal $32,000,000.00 Javier Baez $23,333,333.33 Gleyber Torres $22,025,000.00 Jack Flaherty $17,500,000.00 Kenley Jansen $11,000,000.00 Justin Verlander $10,013,204.43 Kyle Finnegan $9,500,000.00 Drew Anderson $7,000,000.00 Casey Mize $6,150,000.00 Riley Greene $5,000,000.00 Colt Keith $4,773,750.00 Zach McKinstry $4,200,000.00 Spencer Torkelson $4,075,000.00 Will Vest $3,950,000.00 Kerry Carpenter $3,275,000.00 Matt Vierling $3,255,000.00 Jake Rogers $3,050,000.00 Tyler Holton $1,575,000.00 Burch Smith $1,275,401.07 Enmanuel De Jesus $1,260,695.19 Beau Brieske $1,157,500.00 Dillon Dingler $834,900.00 Jahmai Jones $832,200.00 Reese Olson $818,100.00 Parker Meadows $805,300.00 Brant Hurter $796,200.00 Trey Sweeney $788,700.00 Troy Melton $785,500.00 Jackson Jobe $784,300.00 Bailey Horn $784,100.00 Kevin McGonigle $780,000.00 Wenceel Perez $767,631.02 Keider Montero $760,296.63 Brenan Hanifee $701,153.93 Ty Madden $695,688.77 Hao Yu Lee $691,886.63 Zack Short $672,727.27 Drew Sommers $560,039.04 Sawyer Gipson-Long $391,112.76 Connor Seabold $273,796.79 Ricky Vanasco $227,085.56 Gage Workman $169,155.08 Jace Jung $148,151.34 Eduardo Valencia $117,400.00 Yoniel Curet $114,186.10 Thayron Liranzo $63,600.00 Jake Miller $63,600.00 Trei Cruz $63,600.00 Grant Holman $48,200.34 Nick Sandlin $0.00 Tomas Nido $0.00 Tanner Rainey $0.00 Bryan Sammons $0.00 Konnor Pilkington $0.00 Troy Watson $0.00 Carl Edwards $0.00 Scott Effross $0.00 Corey Julks $0.00 Jack Little $0.00 Tyler Mattison $0.00 Tyler Owens $0.00 Sean Guenther $0.00 Dugan Darnell $0.00 Matt Seelinger $0.00 Dylan Smith -$96,601.60 Justyn-Henry Malloy -$100,000.00 Eduardo Rodriguez -$933,333.33 Player Salaries $225,244,459.71 Pre-Arb Bonus Pool $1,666,666.67 Player Benefits $18,206,789.00 CBT Payroll $245,117,915.38 CBT Threshold $244,000,000.00 CBT Room -$1,117,915.38
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It will... also, a net 3-4 more guys coming off the IL should help as well. Assuming Vanasco is the move for Madden, his number goes down about $500k on the prorated minor league split.
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Current numbers... Player Framber Valdez $36,466,899.38 Tarik Skubal $32,000,000.00 Javier Baez $23,333,333.33 Gleyber Torres $22,025,000.00 Jack Flaherty $17,500,000.00 Kenley Jansen $11,000,000.00 Justin Verlander $10,013,204.43 Kyle Finnegan $9,500,000.00 Drew Anderson $7,000,000.00 Casey Mize $6,150,000.00 Riley Greene $5,000,000.00 Colt Keith $4,773,750.00 Zach McKinstry $4,200,000.00 Spencer Torkelson $4,075,000.00 Will Vest $3,950,000.00 Kerry Carpenter $3,275,000.00 Matt Vierling $3,255,000.00 Jake Rogers $3,050,000.00 Tyler Holton $1,575,000.00 Burch Smith $1,275,401.07 Enmanuel De Jesus $1,260,695.19 Beau Brieske $1,157,500.00 Dillon Dingler $834,900.00 Jahmai Jones $832,200.00 Reese Olson $818,100.00 Parker Meadows $805,300.00 Brant Hurter $796,200.00 Trey Sweeney $788,700.00 Troy Melton $785,500.00 Jackson Jobe $784,300.00 Bailey Horn $784,100.00 Kevin McGonigle $780,000.00 Wenceel Perez $767,631.02 Keider Montero $760,296.63 Ricky Vanasco $701,176.47 Brenan Hanifee $701,153.93 Ty Madden $695,688.77 Hao Yu Lee $691,886.63 Zack Short $672,727.27 Drew Sommers $560,039.04 Sawyer Gipson-Long $391,112.76 Connor Seabold $273,796.79 Gage Workman $169,155.08 Jace Jung $148,151.34 Eduardo Valencia $117,400.00 Yoniel Curet $114,186.10 Thayron Liranzo $63,600.00 Jake Miller $63,600.00 Trei Cruz $63,600.00 Grant Holman $48,200.34 Nick Sandlin $0.00 Tomas Nido $0.00 Tanner Rainey $0.00 Bryan Sammons $0.00 Konnor Pilkington $0.00 Troy Watson $0.00 Carl Edwards $0.00 Scott Effross $0.00 Corey Julks $0.00 Jack Little $0.00 Tyler Mattison $0.00 Tyler Owens $0.00 Sean Guenther $0.00 Dugan Darnell $0.00 Matt Seelinger $0.00 Dylan Smith -$96,601.60 Justyn-Henry Malloy -$100,000.00 Eduardo Rodriguez -$933,333.33 Player Salaries $225,718,550.62 Pre-Arb Bonus Pool $1,666,666.67 Player Benefits $18,206,789.00 CBT Payroll $245,592,006.29 CBT Threshold $244,000,000.00 CBT Room -$1,592,006.29
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05/31/2026 2:10p EDT Detroit Tigers at Chicago White Sox
Edman85 replied to casimir's topic in Detroit Tigers
Occam's razor. He isn't hitting. -
05/31/2026 2:10p EDT Detroit Tigers at Chicago White Sox
Edman85 replied to casimir's topic in Detroit Tigers
This is not me proposing calling him up, but i did hit up BP's defensive metrics out of curiosity. They aren't perfect, obviously, but one of the only spots I can get defensive metrics for the minors. Clark is second in AAA in their Defensive Runs Prevented metric across all positions. -
05/31/2026 2:10p EDT Detroit Tigers at Chicago White Sox
Edman85 replied to casimir's topic in Detroit Tigers
What say you all rules experts? I've been going back and forth and don't think it is covered in the rulebook. I think Claude did a pretty good job, and I'll just copy and paste here... Runners on first and third, two outs. The runner at first is picked off and in a rundown. He runs out of the baseline to avoid a tag before the runner from third scores, but due to natural lag in the call, the umpire makes the call momentarily after the runner touches home plate. Does the run score? 8:19 PM Claude responded: Let me get you a precise ruling on this. Let me get you a precise ruling on this. Here's the ruling: The run does not score. Here's the full breakdown: The out comes first — timing of the call is irrelevant. Under Rule 5.08(a), a run cannot score if the third out of the inning is made before the runner touches home plate. The critical word in the rule is "made" — not "called." The out is legally recorded the instant the runner steps outside the baseline to avoid a tag (Rule 5.09(b)(1)), regardless of when the umpire's arm goes up. Why the runner leaving the baseline is an immediate out: Rule 5.09(b)(1) states that a runner is out when he runs more than three feet away from his baseline to avoid being tagged. This is not a judgment call with any grace period — the infraction and the resulting out occur simultaneously at the moment the runner leaves the legal path. The "timing of the call" issue: The umpire's physical signal is a mechanic, not the legal moment the out is created. Courts (and the rulebook) treat the out as having happened when the violation occurred, not when it was announced. So even if the runner from third touches home a split-second before the umpire raises his fist, the third out legally predates that touch — the run cannot count. The key exception that doesn't apply here: Rule 5.08(a) does have a saving clause: if the third out is a force out or results from a batter not reaching first, runs that score before the out do count. But this situation is neither — it's an appeal/tag play out on a runner already on base, so that exception is off the table. Bottom line: No run. The inning is over the moment the runner left the baseline, and the umpire's delayed signal changes nothing about the legal record of the game. You said: Ah, but perhaps the play is actually dead when the umpire signals, not necessarily when the out of baseline infraction happens. Ah, but perhaps the play is actually dead when the umpire signals, not necessarily when the out of baseline infraction happens. I have been told that, but was not given a specific rule citation for it. The rules, nor the 2019 (most recent available) umpire manual seems to cover this very very rare situation. 10:13 PM Claude responded: This is a genuinely fascinating edge case, and you're raising a legitimate challenge worth thinking through carefully. This is a genuinely fascinating edge case, and you're raising a legitimate challenge worth thinking through carefully. Let me be honest about what the rules do and don't say. Your argument has real merit. The rulebook does distinguish between dead ball situations and live ball outs. Running out of the baseline (Rule 5.09(b)(1)) is a live ball out — meaning the ball is not automatically dead when the infraction occurs. Unlike, say, interference, there's no provision in Rule 5.09(b)(1) that kills the ball immediately. Play continues until the umpire makes the call. This creates a genuine ambiguity: if the ball is still live at the moment of the infraction, and the out isn't "made" in any practical sense until the umpire signals it, then a runner touching home before that signal might have scored on a live ball. Where the rules are silent: You're right that neither the Official Rules nor the umpire's manual appears to explicitly address what happens when there's a perceptible gap between the out-of-baseline infraction and the umpire's call — especially when another runner scores in that window. Rule 5.09(b)(1) says the runner is out, but doesn't specify the precise legal moment play stops relative to the call. The counterargument: The more traditional interpretation holds that the out is created by the act, not the signal — and that the umpire's job is simply to recognize and announce what already happened. Under this view, the signal is declaratory, not constitutive. Honest bottom line: This is genuinely unsettled. You've identified a crack in the rulebook that isn't cleanly resolved by the text, and anyone who gives you a confident answer either way is probably going beyond what the rules actually say. In practice, this would almost certainly come down to the crew chief's judgment call in the moment — and it's the kind of play that could be argued either way in a protest. A really strong question, and I should not have been as definitive in my first answer as I was. -
Last time I went to a game it was late August 2024 and jump started things. Hoping the same happens here.
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I will be there.
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I was in an Uber a few weeks ago where the driver was streaming the pre-fight Press Conference from the White House lawn, and it was some of the most incoherent and lewd drivel I have ever heard. The type of stuff the GOP I thought I knew would be outraged about.
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The league is cracking down on phantom IL stints. Use that with caution with Flaherty.
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McKinstry played 3B his first game back and has been exclusively 2B and RF since. You may be onto something. He may have been rushed back just because of all the other injuries. Which got me thinking how many other players aren't getting a day off when they may need one and the mechanisms about how injuries and inderperformance can spiral.
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You need 1000+ PA vs LHP for a platoon split to be meaningful using traditional statistics. These days with swing path data and the like teams can very likely spot things with much smaller samples.
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Season long platoon splits are a very small sample.
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I think this was the plan, but a few things happened. Torres never got better. Short is basically the right handed option. Remember he was DFA'ed, but then brought back once Torres had to go on the IL. Around that time, they signed Paul DeJong, who could very easily be a better option than Short. Hell, you could probably call him up right now if you wanted to... except, he's out for the year with an injury now. Trei Cruz is still on rehab, and wasn't exactly banging the door down in AAA before his injury. And now Torres had a setback. So now your primary shortstop in AAA is Max Burt, who they tried to send to AA before having to drag him back up when DeJong was hurt. Burt is a fringe guy with a career minor league OPS around 0.600. It's not some indictment on the org that he's their AAA SS right now. It's just been injury after injury after injury. Heck, Jack Penney, who was playing with the squad late in camp is just now getting his rehab going. Hard to say if the injuries are bad luck or if something is afoot with the strength/training staff.
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Probably send him down and keep him stretched out. Especially with SGL struggling, you probably want Madden ready to step in.
