mtutiger

Again, having watched BJ operate in Chicago for a few years now, I'm going to take the way under on Mamdani being anywhere near as bad as BJ. Just an otherworldly incompetent politician.... Pritzker has had to bail his ass out so many times.

It's worth noting that AOC was about as vocally supportive as anybody of Joe Biden as the walls were caving in post-debate last year. So I think she's more of a team player than you are giving her credit for.

Cuomo's campaign and backers employed a ton of scare tactics against this guy over the past month or two and that resulted in *checks notes* Mamdani overachieving against the polls and ending up with a relatively comfortable win. I do not see how Eric Adams, potentially with a split field, makes up the math. Especially when Eric Adams is also a wildly unpopular figure who is tied to a wildly unpopular President.

You will get some messaging tonight from Eric Adams, as well as Trump's team, that they are eager to make this a race, but Mamdani's win was pretty strong here tonight, he's likely to end up getting well above 50% when RCV are tabulated, and in a place with the partisan breakdown that New York has, that's just hard to overcome, barring some other epochal change down the road.

I'm definitely not sure that all of Cuomo's voters automatically go to Mamdani, I'm sure he'll get some but not all. But the math for Cuomo to run as an independent, especially with Adams and Sliwa in the race, is also very very difficult. Brass tacks, Mamdani would likely get a majority (if not a significant majority) of Democratic voters in an overwhelming Democratic city, with multiple other candidates fighting over the rest. The math isn't mathing.

The math would be very very difficult for Adams in a three or four way race, especially given all of the baggage and that his approval rating is in the toilet with New Yorkers

This is actually the other reason why I don't get the Mamdani hate, despite whatever ideological misgivings one might have - the guy legitimately did embrace the D label throughout the campaign and was collaborative with other candidates in the race trying to build out a coalition to win. Cuomo, the establishment guy, didn't.... if anything, he showed outright disdain toward Democratic voters by just coasting on name recognition and phoning it in. Again, none of this is surprising.... and maybe there's a lesson here too that candidates absolutely can go *too far* in antagonizing their own voters while chasing middle ground

I don't think we should read too far into this result in regards to the Midterms and honestly think that they will find good candidates in a lot of different places to run and win that fit their districts. But I do think there's a lesson in Cuomo that's part tied in with the sleazy aspects, but also the fact that he was very emblematic of an "old guard" that is holding on and not allowing for the elevation of newer and younger candidates, regardless of ideology. That stuff has to stop... I think it's an underrated dynamic as to why people take such a dim view of the Democratic Party, even despite Trump's falling poll numbers.

I don't know what to expect from Mamdani as Mayor, but after having watched BJ in action up close for a couple of years, I'd take the way under on him being a bigger disaster than BJ.

The candidate that a lot of establishment figures (such as the NYT, Bill Clinton, others) backed was a literal sex pest who had to resign from his last job in disgrace... and who campaigned almost entirely on his last name and felt entitled to a job running a city that he didn't live in until 5 minutes ago. Mamdani is pretty far to the left of me, but even I would have ranked him over Cuomo if I lived in New York... he had no business being in this race except for his own personal reasons. (Sound familiar?)

Just an incredible failure....

I think we're in agreement, but would just add that it's pretty clear that Netanyahu played him like a fiddle... And that he didn't exactly hide the fact that he was playing him leading up to our intervention. Just makes it all the more frustrating.

Weak Weak Weak

He lies as be breathes, Exhibit 57754467

The content was bad, but I saw a clip of him from a debate in 2015 last night... he's clearly diminished

They all lie as they breathe. All of them

That statement was awful...

The shelf life on blaming Biden is gone at this point, this is his show now.

We need a Congress, but we aren't going to have one until these clowns running the show are put out on their asses

It shouldn't go unnoticed that he is giving this address *after* the big action. He never even bothered to try to convince a nation that had been, to-date, skeptical of a move that could potentially lead us into a war. It's pretty shameful and worthy of impeachment IMO

Am I supposed to be reassured by him announcing that "NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE!"?

I'm not clear on how they would enforce this rule given that almost everyone in America has the ability to take video in their pocket or holstered to their body. And no, I don't think arresting people for taking videos is going to stop people from taking videos. If anything, it will probably further encourage it.

TBH, I think even there are at least some people that would answer a poll saying that they "approve" of JV that think he's a weirdo who has had his brain baked by Twitter.