mtutiger

Certainly seems like a bit of projection doesn't it?

Exactly the point... Until something tangible changes on the ground, this is Boob Bait for Bubba. TH won't grapple with it (and the fact that most Americans don't share his zeal for war) because it's inconvenient

My tax dollars are paying for a war that this government hasn't spent a single second trying to justify. So yeah, you're GD right I care if our government is wasting money and lives on a pointless war.

1 in 4 Rs disapproving of force is still pretty awful, particularly at the onset.

How many American lives is this worth for you?

Lord Farquaad-*** Presidency Maybe he should send his sons to the front lines

Wow what a pummeling...

Really the big difference between Massie and the rest is that while Massie has a lot of terrible ideology (despite some areas of agreement with Dems of late), he actually *has* an ideology. So much of the MAGA movement doesn't have core beliefs. It just believes in the leader. That's it.

Gonna be a lot of discussion about the ways this is similar or different to Iraq. But as someone who came of age during Iraq, platitudes like "Freedom is Never Free" to in response to deaths in combat is very similar. And it's chilling to see that the architects of this conflict, one that they didn't even bother to justify to the American public beforehand, are running these platitudes back.

Even looking at the supposed "triumph" of ousting Maduro in Venezuela, a relative geopolitical backwater compared to Iran, are the oppressed people there any less oppressed than they were before? Isn't the same socialist regime that conservatives have decried for years, dating back to Hugo Chavez, ultimately still in charge of the country? It's all such a crock of horse**** to call any of these things "successes"...

It's easy to say stuff like "the oppressed people will" from behind a keyboard in Indiana... reality will likely prove a much harder nut to crack.

Just an incredible answer here... We're gonna start the war and conflict and then take our bat and ball and go home

Three service members who would be alive had this war not been inaugurated

Wow what a pummeling

It's worse than a crap shoot, it's magical thinking. The odds of landing on the ideal outcome through a strictly aerial campaign are remote at best... There is no precedent for it But these guys didn't even bother coming to the American public to try to explain any of what they were planning to do or to justify it (and they had the opportunity during the SOTU speech).... So what makes anyone think they have a plan for what comes next that isn't magical thinking?

Given that the oppressed people of Venezuela are still being oppressed by the same regime after Maduro was removed, what gives you such confidence? If bad leaders are removed but the regimes itself stay in place, why do you expect the Ameircan people to be excited by any of this?

Exactly. It's pretty clear the US ain't gonna do it.

Apparently they must have all forgotten about Iraq, which was the foreign policy equivalent of "28-3"

The point being lost here is that the death of Khamenei doesn't guarantee the fall of the actual regime. Isn't that the actual goal here? It reminds me of all the rejoicing from about taking out Maduro... At the end of the day, the same socialist regime is still leading the place, isn't it? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss... But at least the Bubbas are entertained lol

Naturally... just as with Venezuela, they didn't bother selling this BS to the public

Another take from our now-VP that is aging like a glass of milk left out in the Texas sun on a hot summer day

Andrew Johnson and Buchanan are both hard to top, but damned if he's not trying his hardest.