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Uhh, this is sort of telling

Could also be talking him up for a future trade as well, especially if they do land a big fish.

Not sure how I feel about Baez being one of their top targets, although it has been amusing seeing Mets fans on Twitter being surprised that he may open to leaving them for the Tigers. Like, they are a dumpster fire atm lol

At this point, I'd be surprised if we didn't get one of the Top 5 guys.

I see what you did there lol

I'm sure everyone who posts on this board agrees that making bad decisions is not OK. At the end of the day, insofar as I can tell, this comes down to the fact that some posters are insufficiently outraged in the eyes of other posters. Not much more to do than just agree to disagree.

Dont tell me that, tell all the people on the thread that wanted him fired after today that.

I mean, does much matter at the moment? I'm amazed at how much passion there is in this debate over Dan Campbell given how low stakes it is in the grand scheme of things. This is a historically bad football team... it's not a huge shock to me that they are struggling to win games. The previous regime left a flaming dumpster fire behind... different sport, but reminds me a lot of the flaming dumpster fire Randy Smith left behind pre 43-119 for the Tigers. Maybe Dan Campbell is a failure in the long run. Either way, canning him and bringing someone else in right this moment does not fix this. It just doesn't. The only thing that even begins to fix this is fixing the personnel

Who is ignoring the bad decisions? Who is making excuses? As far as I can tell, the big difference here is that some people are insufficiently angry at Dan Campbell in the eyes of some. And don't want to can him at this point. Its irrational, and I'm not sure how to have a fair conversation about any of this.

I'm sorry that disapproval of Dan Campbell isn't adequate enough for you, I guess.

How many times do I need to keep saying that I think his playcalling sucks? 5 more? 10 more? Christ. Maybe, just maybe, the problems run a little deeper than Dan Campbell.

Then what are we arguing about exactly? I'm not sure I've seen a single person in this thread suggest Dan Campbell has done well at his job this season.

One thing I'd like to see from Campbell (although I doubt I will see) is a recognition that the team would be better off if Lynn is calling plays. Just put ego aside, admit that it isn't working, move on and try to fix the other aspects of being a head coach in this league. It's not an easy job. And my honest read is that he's in over his head at the moment with what is currently on his plate.

Also thankful they arent the Lions lol

This is basically where I come down. Which apparently makes one a Dan Campbell apologist lol

Why do you assume there is daylight between Holmes and Campbell? Honest question, I don't recall seeing any reporting to the effect

Maybe he sucks and will be gone within a couple of years. I really dont know. But firing him right now will not change a single thing about their situation.

I've spent my time saying his play calling sucks and suggesting that the Lions talent is so Godawful that it makes it hard to determine how much is coaching and how much is talent. I'm sorry that not everyone sees everything as black and white as you do.

Said no one in this thread

0-9-1 seems to reflect the level of talent on this team. And yes Dan Campbell bears some responsibility for his part as well. I'm just suggesting that canning the coaching staff 11 games in isn't gonna change a damn thing about their situation. It's still a Godawful roster that will struggle to win any games.

You don't believe the Lions are the worst team in the NFL?

I'd suggest thats maybe not the case?

This team is just a global failure at the moment... Campbell's playcalling sucks, but I also don't know how you can fairly judge when the talent is this poor on offense. If you gave the best play caller in the NFL this offense, they would struggle to get a win. The talent is just that bad at the moment

Interception! FIRE GLENN lol

This is right as well. What did people expect, exactly? The talent ain't there, folks.