Maybe so. But are teams now refusing to swing at pitches the Tiger bullpen throws? Vest was all over the place last night, even the smaller strike zone didn't matter. He was terribly wild. And that's not acceptable in one of our necessary bullpen arms. I know Lee said his inning splits are about the same but it really seems like the earlier he's used, the worse he is. Maybe it's just magnified, IDK. But his implosions are catastrophic.