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OK, then what are we talking about? The initial implication was that the left has started resorting to a campaign of disinformation, something everyone agrees the right routinely does.

I'm interested in more details on this. When was this? What was everyone "eating ... all up"? What was happening? We're basically talking about two time periods: 1989, and post 9-11.

He kind of was "just a utility guy" for the A's. One excellent season, another really good, several pretty decent seasons by WAR, but mostly the the glove and less by the bat. Once he got to Detroit he turned that around to become a really good bat with a sturdy glove. Fun fact: Tony Phillips had, by a long shot, the highest WAR of any player who played his entire career in the All-Star era and never played in the game itself. Kirk Gibson was second, and Reference has their career WARs as being more than 12 apart!

I have a feeling the offense is going to bust out in this one.

“And that’s the way they play it in the World Ser …”

And in the game before, our hitting scored six runs. A team should win the majority of their games when they score six runs. We are definitely on a bad little skein here.

That’s totally fine. I absolutely get your desire to keep your feed free of the nonsense. Makes total sense. I would assume that folks who avoid political social media might lack a keen sense of the scale of left wing social media influence versus that from the right wing, and assume that the existence of both means they are equivalent. They are not.

Nuance is missing here. I never said there is zero misinformation—or more exactly, disinformation—from the left. I’m talking about scale and influence, the kind of scale and influence the biggest right-wing disinformation-spewing social media personalities have on actual policy-making within the American president's administration. Prove to me that same thing exists to that scale on the left, then you’ll have my attention.

LG Basler is a right-winger.

Newsweek and Daily Mail do seem to be peas in a pod these days. Remember when the former was up there with Time and U.S. News & World Report?

I may have. I honestly can't remember. Share a link to anything you see if you come across one. Thanks.

Fun fact: Tigers are a top ten offense in terms of wRC+ and wOBA, and top half in runs scored, right about where they were last year. Their pitching, however, is 22nd in strikeouts, 23rd in walks yielded, 18th in FIP, 22nd in ERA.

Oh my god, they scored a run in the blue jerseys.

That's fair, and I look forward to seeing it. Remember, though, none of it means anything without influence. What's make the right-wing social blowtorches so much worse is not the mere brazenness of the lies, but the influence they have at the very top of that Party. Many tweets coming from accounts managed by nobodies is not going to have anywhere near the same effect as just a few tweets managed by internet personalities who have been elevated by TPTB to somebodies.

Occupy Democrats is as close as we can probably come to finding any leftist social media organization with the kind of scale that even comes close to match any number of right wing social media bomb-throwers, but despite the presence of "Democrats" in the title, they have exactly zero influence on the Democratic Party platform. Any agreement between Occupy Democrats and the Democratic Party is incidental, not direct. As far as I can tell, they don't talk.

The impact it has is the whole ballgame. It's the only reason to even have this discussion in the first place. Who cares what some left-wing loonspud with 116 followers says? Do you regard them as representative of the Democratic Party? I sure don't. Certainly not in the same way right wing social media with massive followings represents the Republican Party, spouting lies and disinformation that not only directly influence actual policy being made by the Trump administration, but they've actually infiltrated our government. That, my friend, is impact worth discussing. Show me anyone on the left like that, then let's talk about it.

Never mind that, what about this?? Pay attention to this, not that!

I was asking for some examples of this, instead of having to simply take someone's word for it.

This is why I have tremendous respect for Dan Dickerson, too. He said Jake was going to lose the challenge, and then, we saw it clip the outermost pixel of the strike zone. Dan says, aw, mannn, this is why I don't like ABS, I'm sorry. The margin for error is 0.22 inches, and that ball was clearly less. So, even though we benefited from the call, he wasn't going to pretend ABS is all well and good after all. He stuck to his principles on ABS. I don't agree with his position on it, but I respect him for sticking to his.

Man, what an awesome strike 'em out-throw 'em out play!

they have not yet scored a run wearing the blue jerseys. And tomorrow, I assume, will be the orange jerseys. Are we throwing our money at them yet?

Given that democracy absolutely depends on facts and logic, I wouldn't agree that "Democrats should be just as hostile to the concept of democracy as Republicans are" is the answer.

I'm not aware of the left resorting to lies and misinformation that have nearly the same influence and impact on as many people in their orbit as the lies and information flowing non-stop out of the very influential and impactful far right have on theirs. I'll even go as far as to say I don't think it's even happening. That's why I asked.

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