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Doesn't look to me as though Harris is sharing any blame in your view ... 😏 Ahhh, hell, I really shouldn't even be responding. I simply can't take seriously any position stipulating that Harris deserves no credit at all, only blame. Sorry. And for everyone else—no, I'm not saying Harris deserves only credit, no blame. I will say that the credit I think he deserves for putting together the vast improvements to our development, coaching, data science, prospect base, big league roster, etc., across the past three years is obvious to me, but whatever blame he might deserve would depend on my knowing exactly what it was he offered in trade and what he turned down, which I don't. I'm having difficulty dinging him for things he didn't do, such as not trading for this guy or not signing that free agent, when we don't even know whether such trades or offers were even on the table, and how the other sides responded in turn. All we know is what we can see that we can all agree upon seeing.

More coulda woulda shoulda here. I mean, if we really want to be fair about Harris's deadline performance last year—I know I do—let's take a look at all seven guys he picked up at the deadline, by fWAR: Finnegan: +0.7 Morton: 0.0 R. Montero: 0.0 Sewald: -0.1 Heuer: -0.1 Paddack: -0.5 Dobnak: n/a Total: 0.0 So, going by this measure, meaning contributions to wins and losses, Harris's performance was a wash. Sure, folks can hammer Harris now for not getting a basket of guys who netted out to a high positive WAR, and folks will. And folks can hammer him some more for getting six guys who did not achieve positive WAR and only one guy who did, and folks will. But I wouldn't agree that Harris's pickups were a collective disaster, because by this measure, they didn't lose us any more games than freely available options in house would have, theorietically. I also wouldn't say that the pickups Harris made was the sole reason we collapsed, especially considering that the same group of hitters who slashed .252/.322.430/108 wRC+ in the first 36 games after the deadline then went on to "hit" .210/.282/.326/70 wRC+ during the final 16-game skid.

How about those '87 Jays, too? Losing seven straight to cough up the division. Best collapse of my lifetime.

This post could not be more wrong if it were written by McCosky. Harris plays 4D chess, not 3D. Yeesh.

Also Harris's fault, totes obvs ...

The Tigers were 20-16 immediately after the trade. That's a .556 winning pct, more than good enough to get us into the playoffs. Harris gets zero credit for that playoff-making-worthy performance. Then the team went into a 3-13 tailspin in the final 16 games with the exact same team. Harris gets 100% of the blame for that collapse that led to nothing more than a wild card bid and series win. Do I have that straight?

That's the going market for pitching, unfortunately. Them's the breaks. Did the Jays and Bassitt announce they they've cut ties? If not, I can't imagine he wouldn't go right back to them if they have him even a halfway decent offer. I don't see where he's so much better as a rotation option than Cody Ponce.

That's fair. Just wanted to see whether you were siding with the pitchfork people, too. 😉 I think Harris put together a team talented enough to get to win playoff series. We didn't know that for most of 2024, and we assumed that going into 2025, and both years, we did, because the players were talented enough, good enough, and won enough as a collective unit to do so. I think that's pretty good, and I'm eager to see how 2026 shapes up.

Personally, I think the players should get more of the credit in 2024 and more of the blame in 2025 than anyone here has been giving them for either.

So, blame Harris 100% for the collapse and give zero credit for the comeback? Got it. Hey, people agree with you.

Playing the same eight guys every day only works when you got eight guys worth playing every day.

Waives his no-trade clause to move closer to home.

We are maybe weeks away from seeing agents punching and stomping people they pull out of cars into unconsciousness or death, and also, ripping cameras and phones from nearby people, smashing them, and beating those people to a bloody pulp, too. The biggest danger is that we simply get used to seeing it and then just tune it out. Then it’ll just be Katie bar the door.

How presidential of him. 😑

Oh Christ Almighty, this guy … https://www.threads.com/@karaswisher/post/DTfb0gvgJp-?xmt=AQF0EmE1ZsY1hAdaGLX493AwB9jenW_WlDabYEXSFTqm0d8xRR23Az1TiapaGHi2Tljs2DaJ&slof=1

This right here is exactly why Trump is so desperate to distract us from the Files. It was bound to come out as being more than the CSA itself.

Now even Bowden the ex-GM is piling on. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6961973/2026/01/13/mlb-news-tigers-skubal-bellinger-yankees-labor-talks/ The narrative is really getting away from the team.

How does that compare to coming from behind to make the playoffs after having a 1% chance with only six weeks left?

When the Tigers start failing on the field as a result of Harris cheaping out on the roster, that’s when I’ll start calling for his head.

"What about Biden?"

Assuming this actually happened and wasn’t staged for social media, they totally deserved it.

How is Boras going to convince Harris and Hinch that Skubal is not allowed to pitch more than five innings? If Skubal never pitches more than five innings, who’s going to pay him what he wants? What team would give $50 million a year to a guy who willing to go into Operation Shutdown at the behest of his agent?

Fair point!

This gives us some insight into the psyche of individual countries.