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I too don't think these numbers come out of thin air.

I don’t think the Tigers necessarily low-balled Skubal with an offer of $19MM. They might have considered $19.8MM out of respect for Skubal’s accomplishments, a number that would have made him the highest arb award to a pitcher to date no matter what. But it’s not as though they truly low-balled him with a number under $15MM or something. The Skubal ask of $32MM is way, way more out of line versus precedent than the Tigers’ number. I kind of doubt they informally discussed beforehand what they would offer, and assuming they did not, I could see the Tigers thinking we’ll offer $19, they’ll ask for $25 or so, we won’t mind losing that, it’ll be fine. Instead, we have this, and all the narrative attended to it. I understand the Harris regime is a file-and-trial regime, but I don’t think that necessarily means they can’t negotiate a mid-point number. I think it’s possible the Skubal camp would be nervous enough about a $19 award that they would accept a $26 or $27 settlement. A truism of negotiation is that literally everything that goes before it factors into the outcome, so it’s reasonable to assume that any long-term deal Skubal signs would be a lot higher if he made $26MM this year than if he made $19MM. That would be incentive enough for him to accept a midpoint settlement.

… and that come out in January.

This is your answer when I ask you to prove your wild statement that was obviously untrue? Huh. This is clearly personal for you. I have no interest in this anymore.

Of the 21 Games running on NBC, 17 of them involved Big Six teams: Yankees, Mets, Dodgers, Giants, Red Sox, or Cubs. In fact, there are more games that involve two Big Six teams (five) than have no Big Six teams (four).

I’ll be interested to see whether Andy is good enough to stick on the Dodgers’ big league roster for a whole 183 days.

OK, but I also would also think they’d need to close the gap a lot faster than the ten or fifteen years it would take to get there under your illustrative example. I think the longer they make that period, the more likely they abandon it along the way as being unworkable or undesirable.

Darn it. This makes so much sense. I hope your scenario doesn’t happen, but I can envision it happening.

I’m thinking the market is waiting for prices to come down, since they’ve been high so far.

I think this is sometimes true and not always true.

You are correct. It is also correct that you habituate a forum loaded with participants who grew up during the greatest period of year-to-year roster retention in big league history, and it can be hard to think beyond the principles of the game you committed to memory when you were eleven.

Ted knew more about hitting than just about all of his contemporaries, so with this I agree.

Awesome! Barring some last minute deal with Draft Kings YouTube channel or something, we should be free and clear of annoyingly constant gambling odds for at least one year.

Where did I defend Harris for signing (I assume you mean) Paddack and Morton? Do you have receipts on that?

I’m sorry, are you actually denying that there are people here who want to trade Skubal?? Please tell me I don’t have to provide proof of that!

Scott Harris isn't a perfect GM, I don't think and haven't said so, and I don't know anyone else who has said so. I'm not sure I can agree at face value that his "bad moves outnumber his good moves, by far."

So ironic that you conclude your post with "the future is now" when so many fans want to trade away our generationally-talented two-time-defending Cy Young pitcher so we can possibly compete three or four years from now at the explicit expense of now.

Good for you. And your family.

I remember watching video of a network news report that aired a day or two after the Kent State shootings—it might have been part of some documentary I saw—where they interviewed Joe and Jane Public on the street about what they thought of what happened there, and a frightening number of them said that the kids deserved to be shot, and one of them said they should have shot more kids, that'll teach them to use college to dodge their sacred military duty, or something along those lines. That's where these present-day degenerate boomer and gen x jagoffs learned to cheer for that kind of thing: from their degenerate "greatest generation" parents.

Exactly. Remember when they claimed the first Trump inauguration had a largest ever crowd when photo evidence showed that was not true? And when called on it they just stuck to their sotry, even though everyone could see they were lying? That served notice that this cabal would constantly employ the "don't believe your lying eyes" strategy. Now that has extended to them murdering people in front of our eyes and telling us that's not what happened. That's where we are at now. Can you imagine where we will be at by the end of this year?

But then they would have to pull the lady out of the car and she would be struggling and pushing back and that would be hard. Better to just shoot her dead on the spot. So much easier. 😞

Disagree. There will be someone else speaking at that convention who will have shot dead way more citizens than this guy will have.

This is exactly what they voted for. This video will be a huge recruitment tool.

They're removing the guardrails and getting us used to seeing this for when the military comes to your town and mine.

What are you talking about? She was nominated at the convention in Milwaukee. It was in all the papers.