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I didn't think Wenceel would get even this far!

Two DL stints before the Tigers: DL-15 Left thumb contusion from a headfirst slide into 1B, April 2016; and IL-10 Back spasms for "wear and tear" with the Mets in August 2021. With the Tigers? Four stints across 2022, 2024, and this year. Maybe it was that "wear and tear" stint that might have scared off the smarter and/or less desperate GMs.

Any one of those marginal one-out-of-two-games misses would cost us an out at minimum, and could reasonably be feared to result in multiple runs that would never have happened otherwise which could cost us a win. Add enough of those across a season and we are talking about costing us wins, with an "s".

We can confirm the injury info at The Baseball Cube. I took both the majors and minors list, up there as of today, and determined projected WAR for each player on both lists who has a ZIPS WAR projection, added them all up by team, and lo and behold: Team MLB Players MLB IL WAR Minors Players Minors IL WAR Total Players Total IL WAR Detroit Tigers 14 19.7 36 6.2 50 25.9 New York Mets 12 23.5 38 1.5 50 25.0 Boston Red Sox 9 17.8 26 1.9 35 19.6 Houston Astros 12 18.0 29 1.4 41 19.4 Baltimore Orioles 11 13.1 42 4.7 53 17.9 Toronto Blue Jays 13 17.9 43 -0.1 56 17.7 Atlanta Braves 9 12.5 13 1.6 22 14.2 Chicago White Sox 11 11.2 33 2.8 44 14.0 San Francisco Giants 8 11.7 22 2.2 30 13.9 Texas Rangers 9 15.2 28 -1.4 37 13.9 Chicago Cubs 11 12.1 34 1.0 45 13.2 Seattle Mariners 6 12.2 15 0.9 21 13.1 Los Angeles Dodgers 13 12.7 44 -0.2 57 12.4 Arizona Diamondbacks 12 10.6 25 1.2 37 11.8 Minnesota Twins 6 6.2 32 5.6 38 11.8 San Diego Padres 8 10.2 28 0.8 36 11.0 Athletics 6 7.0 13 3.8 19 10.8 Kansas City Royals 8 10.1 23 0.3 31 10.4 Tampa Bay Rays 11 9.3 34 0.9 45 10.2 Colorado Rockies 13 9.3 29 0.5 42 9.8 Milwaukee Brewers 7 8.8 24 0.8 31 9.6 Cincinnati Reds 6 8.7 29 0.7 35 9.4 New York Yankees 5 7.3 35 1.7 40 9.0 Miami Marlins 5 6.0 38 2.9 43 9.0 Los Angeles Angels 7 5.1 22 0.6 29 5.7 Washington Nationals 7 2.8 34 1.9 41 4.8 St. Louis Cardinals 5 4.3 22 -1.2 27 3.1 Pittsburgh Pirates 3 2.7 27 0.3 30 3.0 Philadelphia Phillies 3 0.0 35 1.6 38 1.6 Cleveland Guardians 2 1.8 28 -0.4 30 1.4 The Tigers are second highest in just majors players, and highest in just minors players. Only the Mets have a credible claim to having worse injury luck up and down their system than we.

Well, I wouldn't say no one is saying Harris and Hinch are stupid people ... 😏 But seriously, I can hardly imagine what kind of doghouse Jace Jung must be in that he's not considered a better alternative to Gage Workman or Zack Short.

There are things I can say about these tarps off jackwagons that don’t belong in this particular forum, but I will say that when Ohtani came up to bat in the Dodgers-Brewers game Saturday night, they chanted “USA! USA!”, and it was noticeable and off-putting.

I’m starting to wonder whether we have the right development people in place up and down the system. If there’s a shake-up, I’d guess that’s where it would be. The suck is pretty prevalent throughout the minors. Have you seen the mess West Michigan is lately?

He was a AA player and we had no place to put him. But, yeah, always galling to see.

I don’t think Tork would be gone. I think they either believe Tork maybe can still be saved or, more likely, they have to put him out there because they have to put someone out there and we have no one else who’s remarkably better, and also, front office is hoping for a lucky run at the right time to make Tork a more tradeable asset as Briceno or Liranzo come online.

This is worse than 2019 because this was not supposed to happen.

Well, whaddya know. It's not just Kenley Jansen who sucks. Turns out they all suck.

Jesus, Wenceel, what's with the alligator arms there? Save them for a team dinner.

Just hypothetically, if a relief pitcher has a 10 ERA in his first six innings and games, then has a 0 ERA in his next six innings and games, he has a 5 ERA in 12 innings/games and his numbers are terrible. But that's potentially meaningfully different than if he had 0 ERA first and 10 ERA after, in terms of what it means going forward. But you'd be justified to conclude that a 5 ERA in 12 games mean he's bad.

Or maybe they saw something during live BP against LHPs that concerned them.

Not for nothing, It didn't help that Rainer's progress got pushed back a year by injury. Not that he'd be ready to help us now, but still.

But he's delivering lately, yesterday excepted. So we'll see which guy shows up more going forward.

Maybe you're right. Or maybe he's put some of the rougher times behind him and what we're seeing lately is real. One thing is for sure: we're gonna find out.

And now you know where all the best food in Europe comes from.

Literally the only thing I know about the Ottoman Empire is that it existed once.

States That Redditors did not think were part of the Northeast, South, Midwest or West West Virginia is a state of mind.

That checks out.

Ever been to one? I haven't yet.

I guess I'm not surprised.