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I kind of don’t blame them, given that the Tigers have not only not yet established themselves as consistent winners, but had also had a thin record post-Dombrowski when it came to signing and retaining top talent. Heck even now, a healthy percentage, if not the majority, of posters here want to trade Skubal today, just so we don’t risk him shoving our faces in the snow on the way out. We could be at the turning point now. Wouldn’t that be loverly!

I’m not a fan of making offers you know the player is going to turn down. I think it’s a bad look.

Melton.

I believe his given name was grapestastebasted.

If convicted he should be done done, but in this pro-gambling environment, who knows.

He's virtue signaling to red hats. Obvs.

One of the things I’ve always loved most about the Olympics is the parade of nations at the beginning. I love watching them march in, first Greece, by tradition, and then alphabetically according to home language, then host country last. One of my favorite things to do is to guess how many athletes are in each delegation before it is announced. I just like seeing how close I am. But one of the things I am going to be most interested in seeing during today’s parade of nations is whether the spectators in the stadium boo and jeer the United States when they walk in. That would be a very sad commentary on our status in the world today, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did.

We are not going to get a king's ransom for a single year of Skubal along with $32 million, unless we pick up some of the salary, at which point what the hell are we even doing? How about an earl's ransom? Would you take an earl's ransom for Skubal? It might not be a king's ransom, but upside, you get Skubal the hell out of town.

The very same!

Also, I don't think Bichette or Bregman wanted to come here. And none of us wanted Suarez to come here. Although I do think if we had gotten Valdez sooner, then guys like Bichette and Bregman would have taken us more seriously as an option.

Or maybe it wasn't Scott Harris. Maybe it was Al Avila coming out of retirement to get it done. 🦆🦆🦆

Monarrez is not the only one trying to stir up **** between Skubal, the Tigers, and the fans.

Not to mention basically everything else.

Never mind that, what about his OE%?

Never stop not making sense.

Yeah, Chris Ilitch deserves to have it stuck to him for being such a meanie to that nice Al Avila. 😁

This, I agree with.

I re-read this just now, and continue to stand behind every word of it. The key part within contains the reason why we will not trade Tarik Skubal, unless we get a package which makes us better this year, which is impossible, because what team would ever trade away more wins to us to get a single year of Skubal in return?

Harris isn't going anywhere unless he publicly squeezes Kelle Ilitch's ass and then drops a deuce on Chris's desk.

Noted. Asshole. 😉

WJBK has more than just an agreement with the FOX Network. They are in fact owned and operated by the FOX network, so it's not as though this would be case of a franchisee dickering with corporate. I won't argue that there's no way the Tigers end up on 20, 50, 38, or anywhere else instead. I'll even agree in the interest of maintaining comity that it might even be more likely they end up on channel 20. All I would maintain is that if FOX were to agree to air the Tigers on their O&O again in 2026, as they did last season, they would not relegate the broadcast to a dot-two.

All due respect, I think using real numbers would show they would make far more money on 2.1 than 2.not 1.

If that were to happened, this town would go bonkers, in part because he would be gone, and in part because whatever we would get back wouldn't be enough to justify it.

I would bet that the Tigers have heard a lot of offers that they could refuse, so I don't know what an offer they can't refuse would even look like. All I am pretty sure of is that a single year of Skubal isn't not going to lead any team to completely empty out the top of their farm system for him. He ain't going anywhere. I see much of the national media are trying to make the Tigers look like jackwagons for spending $38.5MM per year for Valdez while blanching at paying $32MM for Skubal. At least one story I read is, in fact, specifically trying to rile up us Tiger fans over this idea. But I promise you the Tigers would have been pleased to pay $50MM for three years, or even four years, for Skubal to stick around. The Valdez signing has me pretty much resigned to this being Skubal's final year here.

I get what Mister Salad means. We can bemoan having to do it even as we do it, exactly because it's terrible but we can't unilaterally disarm in the face of it.