The main problem with the whole national debt bugaboo is that people don't see how it's affecting their everyday lives now. What people see is their economic lives, their situation, is basically the same now that the debt is $35 trillion as it was years ago when it was $25 trillion, and when it was $15 trillion, and when it was $5 trillion. There is nothing happening to typical everyday people that they can point to and say, see, right there, this is the specific bad economic outcome that is happening to me right now because the national debt is so high. And if they can't draw that kind of direct correlation to the national debt number, how are you gonna make them quiver in fear of it? You can tell people all you want that their hair is on fire, but if they look in the mirror and can't see it, why should they reach for the fire hose?