RandyMarsh Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I've mentioned this before but I think playing for a winner means more in other sports namely basketball than it does in baseball cause in other sports your legacy is completely tied to how well your team does. Baseball being a much more individual stat based sport it really doesn't matter how your team fairs as evidence of Trout being viewed as the consensus best player in baseball for the past decade. Any other sport there'd be no way he'd even be in the conversation due to his team's success no matter how good his stats were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 hours ago, chasfh said: I think that's a big reason why the Rangers are able to get good players to go there even without a recent track record. Another reason, mentioned here, is that Texas is a preferred geography for a lot of players: it's in the South, which American southerners like, and they have an embedded Hispanic culture there, which appeals to Latinos. Detroit has neither of those things. And, of course, the Tigers weren't going to throw 5/185 or 10/325 or 7/175 at anyone, anyway, so there's that, too. FWIW, people around the org and local media think the new stadium / facilities are the best in baseball and are a draw as well. (I dont know personally, it may just be that standard "everything's bigger (better) in Texas mentality that everyone projects here lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, mtutiger said: FWIW, people around the org and local media think the new stadium / facilities are the best in baseball and are a draw as well. (I dont know personally, it may just be that standard "everything's bigger (better) in Texas mentality that everyone projects here lol) Is there not some tax benefits as well? Not a major reason if so - but does not hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, alex said: Is there not some tax benefits as well? Not a major reason if so - but does not hurt. Correct, Texas does not have a state income tax. (Property taxes are another matter, but that's a tradeoff multimillionaire athletes will make, particularly if they live somewhere else in the offseason) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Pitchers and Catchers report. The holiday season has begun. HAPPY HOLIDAYS ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Jesus! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said: Jesus! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I think they should adopt the double first-base to avoid collisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Seriously? Is that the new base? It looks 4 times the size of the old base. I mean, I knew it was bigger, but... wow!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 44 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: Pitchers and Catchers report. The holiday season has begun. HAPPY HOLIDAYS ! Dude... None of this "Happy Holidays" BS! Call the holiday by its REAL name!!! HAPPY SPRING TRAINING OPENING DAY ladies & gents!!! (I'm just being a smartass here but... you know...) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Mayhem Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Was Jim Joyce consulted prior to the approval of this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Seriously? Is that the new base? It looks 4 times the size of the old base. I mean, I knew it was bigger, but... wow!!! No, that is photoshopped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motor City Sonics Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Dude... None of this "Happy Holidays" BS! Call the holiday by its REAL name!!! HAPPY SPRING TRAINING OPENING DAY ladies & gents!!! (I'm just being a smartass here but... you know...) its the first of many holidays, so I am covering them all. Just being lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Right now it's 60 degrees in Dearborn at 9am on February 15th. There is no way Opening Day is going to be as nice as the last 3 days here. This has been the easiest February of my life (in Detroit anyway). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 11 hours ago, mtutiger said: Correct, Texas does not have a state income tax. (Property taxes are another matter, but that's a tradeoff multimillionaire athletes will make, particularly if they live somewhere else in the offseason) The state income tax savings alone will save Jacob deGrom close to $19 million during the course of his contract versus if he’d made the same salary with the Mets, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: Right now it's 60 degrees in Dearborn at 9am on February 15th. There is no way Opening Day is going to be as nice as the last 3 days here. This has been the easiest February of my life (in Detroit anyway). this has been the easiest Michigan winter of my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: No, that is photoshopped That looks much better. I totally fell for the photoshop...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 22 hours ago, buddha said: pecota has us at 63 wins....but not last place! Last year, it said 68 wins and everyone laughed. What does Pecota know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: Between this, the shift ban, the pitch clock, and, I assume, a juiced ball, run scoring is going to leap by perhaps a whole run per team per game. The only thing that’s going to keep it down will be record strikeouts by a record number of pitchers per game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Last year, it said 68 wins and everyone laughed. What does Pecota know? Harris gets this year as a mulligan, but they had better start improving quickly after that. That may seem unfair, but I think we've had enough of this crap. Great front office and stadium moves this offseason (at least I think they were great) and just awful roster construction, but I get it, he's got to see what he has and maybe Meadows, Schoop and Baez return to career averages, but I just dont see "Wait until 2026" as acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, chasfh said: Between this, the shift ban, the pitch clock, and, I assume, a juiced ball, run scoring is going to leap by perhaps a whole run per team per game. The only thing that’s going to keep it down will be record strikeouts by a record number of pitchers per game. I know, with all this maybe the Tigers can hit .,235 as a team this year ! Wait a minute, .241 put a team in the top half of hitting last year? Oh my god. 10 points down from 2017. Wow. No wonder the game is struggling to attract fans. In 2008 that number was .264. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Motor City Sonics said: I know, with all this maybe the Tigers can hit .,235 as a team this year ! Wait a minute, .241 put a team in the top half of hitting last year? Oh my god. 10 points down from 2017. Wow. No wonder the game is struggling to attract fans. In 2008 that number was .264. Without doing any math on actual BABIP from the last few years, I could see batting averages leaping by 20 points or more, tempered, of course, by the strikeout increase. BTW, here’s a clarification on the rule limiting throws over to first that I did not realize: the technical limitation is not on throws, but on “disengagements”, meaning, a disengagement of the pitcher’s foot from the pitcher plate to engage with the runner on first. IOW, a step off the rubber and a movement toward first counts the same against the limit as an actual throw. I don’t love the rule, but if they’re gonna have it anyway, I rather like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 The fear (and my belief) is that Chris Illitch will NEVER spend money. He reached out for Baez and it failed and he's probably saying "see, it doesn't work". I want a fan boy for an owner, not a profit margin guy. Team is with probably 30 times what his dad bought it for. Sell it to someone who cares about winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Last year, it said 68 wins and everyone laughed. What does Pecota know? what kind of a reflection is it on Harris if we backslide even further? Last year was classic Murphy's Law--significant injuries, key players missing time (ERod and Meadows), not a single offensive player hitting close to their career averages/potential? Can we really be worse, and should that be excused? I don't think this is the same situation that Dombrowski was in--when he joined, the cupboards were literally bare. That's not the case now, though admittedly there are a ton of question marks. Personally, I don't see us being worse, although the schedule changes where we don't face our AL Central rivals a disproportionate amount, could have negative implications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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