CMRivdogs Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 The pro 2nd Amendment folks keep missing the part about a WELL REGULATED militia. I would assume that would also regulate the types of firearms. You buy a military style weapon, you sign up for monthly weekend drills and spend part of your vacation at camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said: The pro 2nd Amendment folks keep missing the part about a WELL REGULATED militia. I would assume that would also regulate the types of firearms. You buy a military style weapon, you sign up for monthly weekend drills and spend part of your vacation at camp. The push back you'll get from the gun nuts is that "well regulated" didn't have the same meaning in the 1700's as it does today. To regulate something meant to have processes in place for calling up, training and deploying the militia. The whole thing is absolute BS. The 2nd Amendment was written for a very specific purpose, to ensure there would be civilians with guns that could be relied upon to assist the newly formed US Army in fighting off a threat to the country. Heller, a 5-4 decision from a conservative majority, is the most blatantly wrong decision in the history of the Supreme Court. And before some gun nut goes off on me, I'm a gun owner and have my CPL. I'm not saying that people don't have a right to own certain firearms, I'm just saying it's absurd to claim you have that right because of an outdated relic from our past. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 27 minutes ago, MIguy said: The push back you'll get from the gun nuts is that "well regulated" didn't have the same meaning in the 1700's as it does today. To regulate something meant to have processes in place for calling up, training and deploying the militia. The whole thing is absolute BS. The 2nd Amendment was written for a very specific purpose, to ensure there would be civilians with guns that could be relied upon to assist the newly formed US Army in fighting off a threat to the country. Heller, a 5-4 decision from a conservative majority, is the most blatantly wrong decision in the history of the Supreme Court. And before some gun nut goes off on me, I'm a gun owner and have my CPL. I'm not saying that people don't have a right to own certain firearms, I'm just saying it's absurd to claim you have that right because of an outdated relic from our past. It also speaks to the double standard conservatives employ about, I think it's called Originalism? "we have to go by what they said.... no exceptions" "well that's not what they were referring to..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 2 hours ago, MIguy said: The whole thing is absolute BS. The 2nd Amendment was written for a very specific purpose, to ensure there would be civilians with guns that could be relied upon to assist the newly formed US Army in fighting off a threat to the country. Heller, a 5-4 decision from a conservative majority, is the most blatantly wrong decision in the history of the Supreme Court. Dred Scott might like to have a word with you about this. 😏 Notwithstanding this, I totally cosign onto your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 13 hours ago, Tiger337 said: They really messed up the second amemdment. It should be loaded with qualifiers. I guess they couldn’t imagine that future generations citizens/legislators would be this obtuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 2 hours ago, oblong said: It also speaks to the double standard conservatives employ about, I think it's called Originalism? "we have to go by what they said.... no exceptions" "well that's not what they were referring to..." If they were actually originalists they would know that there's no authority in the constitution for judiciary to overturn laws. That power was granted to the court by the court itself in Marbury v Madison, not by the words of the constitution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Here we go again.... Lewiston, Maine. Seeing initial reports of 16 casualties and 50 to 60 injuries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 This looks very ****ing bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 List of things that are too dangerous to do in America Bowling. Can't go bowling anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microline133 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 I have numerous friends in the Lewiston-Auburn area....hoping to hear from them soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Yeah, this is what you need for personal protection. This is what you need for hunting. This kind of gun. Get the **** out of here with this. Another scumbag using a weapon exactly the way it was designed - to mow down as many people as you can, as quickly as possible. Yeah, it's okay to have these around...............**** this. This is why when I get enough money I'm out of here. Totally sickening and disgusting and nothing will be done. Then we'll talk about the next tragedy, "oh, if only............" I can watch baseball on the internet in Ireland or Spain or wherever, and I'll also be able to go to a store, or a parade, or street fair or bowling without having to worry about "what if....." So sick of these gun nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Said it before and I'll say it again, the 2nd Amendment is an outdated relic that has no place in today's society. I'm all for people being able to own certain types of weapons, but nobody needs high capacity semi-automatic rifles unless they are law enforcement or military. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, MIguy said: Said it before and I'll say it again, the 2nd Amendment is an outdated relic that has no place in today's society. I'm all for people being able to own certain types of weapons, but nobody needs high capacity semi-automatic rifles unless they are law enforcement or military. It's very outdated. It's a totally different country today in terms of population size, technology, etc. There is no comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiger337 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 "Trained firearms instructor" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 he looks like a piece of **** and that trout is obviously fake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 1 hour ago, microline133 said: I have numerous friends in the Lewiston-Auburn area....hoping to hear from them soon. I hope that they are all OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 8 hours ago, MIguy said: He is still a firearms instructor? If he was worth his salt in firearms safety, he would have given up his guns when he was committed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 9 hours ago, microline133 said: I have numerous friends in the Lewiston-Auburn area....hoping to hear from them soon. Heard from anyone yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 He's hearing voices. Yeah, no problem with him having guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Since guns don't kill people, people kill people, maybe it would be a good idea to give people-killing people unfettered access to guns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microline133 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: Heard from anyone yet? Heard from relatives of theirs this morning that folks are okay. Most of it went down about two miles from their home, locked down, but okay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Tons of red flags with this one. Sad all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 “Thoughts and prayers” have been largely replaced by “it’s not the guns, it’s mental illness”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 35 minutes ago, chasfh said: “Thoughts and prayers” have been largely replaced by “it’s not the guns, it’s mental illness”. There is some truth to this, but the same people that make this claim anytime we see something like this, do nothing to try and help deal with mental illness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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