pfife Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 8:35 AM, Archie said: I saw this article and it made me think of you folks... https://www.vedderholsters.com/news-articles/whats-the-difference-between-clip-and-magazine/ Saw this article and it made me think of you. https://newschannel9.com/news/local/multiple-people-shot-late-saturday-night-in-downtown-chattanooga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 15 hours ago, Kacie said: The Uvalde police force are cowardly pussies. Probably couldn't be bothered to save a bunch of brown kids. The same thoughts have entered my thinking on this. I have been somewhat surprised to this point that the ethnicity of this school population hasn’t been directly introduced into the media coverage when assessing the total avoidance of action on the part of security and law enforcement. If it has before now, I haven’t seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I have definitely seem internet comments along those lines but not within the major media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 20 hours ago, Jim Cowan said: I don't think it's Hollywood at all, I think it has to be something a lot deeper in your culture. You’re right, Hollywood didn’t make the culture, but Hollywood does reflects the culture. Hollywood also validates the culture, and they contribute to ossifying the culture when they reflect it in their stories by culminating it with such positive outcomes. When it comes to Hollywood and our history to explain how we’ve arrived where we are politically with guns, it’s not a case of either-or. It’s a case of both-and. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, chasfh said: You’re right, Hollywood didn’t make the culture, but Hollywood does reflects the culture. Hollywood also validates the culture, and they contribute to ossifying the culture when they reflect it in their stories by culminating it with such positive outcomes. When it comes to Hollywood and our history to explain how we’ve arrived where we are politically with guns, it’s not a case of either-or. It’s a case of both-and. I think that Hollywood just makes money from a violent subculture that existed for generations before Hollywood ever did. They are serving a market that would exist without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 11 hours ago, mtutiger said: He absolutely knows that the delay cost lives. He’s backtracking because politically, saying what he did was unfavorable to the all-rights-belong-to-gun-owners crowd, because going in sooner would have removed the benefit of the doubt from the shooter, and there will be a next time cops will have to give the benefit of the doubt to another armed mania… er, patriot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said: I think that Hollywood just makes money from a violent subculture that existed for generations before Hollywood ever did. They are serving a market that would exist without them. Also correct. Both-and. Edited May 29, 2022 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 On 5/27/2022 at 1:27 PM, Archie said: Everything you propose only hurts the legal gun owner. What's your proposal to take illegal guns off the streets and out of the hands illegal gun owners. How to end the hundreds if not thousand of kids being shot in places like Chicago? https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm Illinois ranks quite low compared to some GOP havens..... try some data instead of propaganda Data Table Datatable showing data for the United States Map figure. LocationSort by location in no order Death Rate (Click for Rankings)Sort by death rate (click for rankings) in descending order Deaths Sort by deaths in no order Mississippi 28.6 818 Louisiana 26.3 1,183 Wyoming 25.9 154 Missouri 23.9 1,426 Alabama 23.6 1,141 Alaska 23.5 175 New Mexico 22.7 479 Arkansas 22.6 673 South Carolina 22 1,131 Tennessee 21.3 1,473 Montana 20.9 238 Oklahoma 20.7 826 Kentucky 20.1 902 West Virginia 18.1 325 Georgia 17.7 1,897 Idaho 17.6 321 Indiana 17.3 1,159 Nevada 17 547 Kansas 16.9 494 Arizona 16.7 1,265 North Carolina 16 1,699 Colorado 15.4 922 Ohio 15.2 1,764 Michigan 14.6 1,454 Delaware 14.4 135 Texas 14.2 4,164 Illinois 14.1 1,745 North Dakota 13.8 100 Florida 13.7 3,041 Utah 13.6 429 South Dakota 13.6 120 Pennsylvania 13.6 1,752 Maryland 13.5 803 Virginia 13.4 1,174 Oregon 13 592 Wisconsin 12.2 717 Vermont 11.6 76 Iowa 11.2 351 Washington 10.9 864 Maine 10.4 153 Nebraska 10.1 197 New Hampshire 8.9 128 Minnesota 8.9 513 California 8.5 3,449 Connecticut 6 219 New York 5.3 1,052 Rhode Island 5.1 54 New Jersey 5 443 Massachusetts 3.7 268 Hawaii 3.4 50 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 3 hours ago, pfife said: Saw this article and it made me think of you. https://newschannel9.com/news/local/multiple-people-shot-late-saturday-night-in-downtown-chattanooga You missed a couple Barney. Let me help you expand your knowledge... https://www.wpxi.com/news/trending/ohio-homeowner-shoots-intruder-during-attempted-break-in-police-say/3RLH7PYRFBDSJEPLYDZZM6CT3M/ https://fox4kc.com/news/good-gal-with-a-gun-woman-with-pistol-kills-gunman-at-party/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Archie said: You missed a couple Barney. Let me help you expand your knowledge... https://www.wpxi.com/news/trending/ohio-homeowner-shoots-intruder-during-attempted-break-in-police-say/3RLH7PYRFBDSJEPLYDZZM6CT3M/ https://fox4kc.com/news/good-gal-with-a-gun-woman-with-pistol-kills-gunman-at-party/ You've missed literally dozens. The awesome part about how you missed dozens is that it's all documented in this thread. You're welcome. Edited May 29, 2022 by pfife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 why do you keep calling me barney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, pfife said: why do you keep calling me barney? I don't know if you're serious or not.... Barney Fife, the Andy Griffith Show. Those examples are just a couple from this weekend. There are many other examples where people defend themselves and save lives legally but I don't want to waste my time and yours posting them all the time. Yes, bad people do bad things too but thought you should see the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Also correct. Both-and. Well, Hollywood isn't helping matters, but they aren't creating an appetite for violence that did not already exist and they aren't changing any attitudes so no, Hollywood is not on the list of causes, Hollywood is an effect. You need to look way deeper, Hollywood is superficial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Archie said: I don't know if you're serious or not.... Barney Fife, the Andy Griffith Show. lol wow nice century man, I had to google 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Archie said: I don't know if you're serious or not.... Barney Fife, the Andy Griffith Show. Those examples are just a couple from this weekend. There are many other examples where people defend themselves and save lives legally but I don't want to waste my time and yours posting them all the time. Yes, bad people do bad things too but thought you should see the other side. Likewise, just making sure you see the side that is the result of the policies you advocate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 34 minutes ago, Archie said: I don't know if you're serious or not.... Barney Fife, the Andy Griffith Show. Pfife thought you meant: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Or maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 43 minutes ago, pfife said: lol wow nice century man, I had to google Now that's funny. I must have a few decades on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Archie said: Now that's funny. I must have a few decades on you. I knew who you meant. I am closer to the Barney Fife era than the Barney the Dinosaur era. I remember everyone used to make fun of Barney the Dinosaur because he was "too nice" like that was a bad thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Jim Cowan said: Well, Hollywood isn't helping matters, but they aren't creating an appetite for violence that did not already exist and they aren't changing any attitudes so no, Hollywood is not on the list of causes, Hollywood is an effect. You need to look way deeper, Hollywood is superficial. You may not have read my original post in which I said, in so many words, that I don't believe at all that TV shows and movies are inspiring these shooters in the first place. You appear to be arguing against a point I did not make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1984Echoes Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 6 hours ago, pfife said: lol wow nice century man, I had to google Google Archie Bunker. Same century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ben9753 Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 He’s an never Trumper so as far as other Repubs are concerned he’s basically a Democrat. This unfortunately won’t move the needle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, ben9753 said: He’s an never Trumper so as far as other Repubs are concerned he’s basically a Democrat. This unfortunately won’t move the needle true dat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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