Motown Bombers Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 I honestly didn't know there was confusion as I thought it was pretty clear. I was confused why I was being quizzed on the cloud. I thought I was going to be told that my cameras are still being access by Dominion Voting Systems via an Italian satellite. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screwball Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: Do you really not know or are you setting up some sort of gotcha? I'm just asking questions. I have security cameras, 4 to exact. I cover most of my property and also see others. Mine are all wireless, but they are hooked into my home network. My home network is secure. If a camera triggers, a video is created, and stored internally to a SD card. I can access that through my computer, or phone, at any time. All safe, all internal to my network. I have an option to copy/store these videos to a cloud, which I assume is from the company that sells this stuff. I'm not interested. A picture or a video ends up as a file of some sort. You can move them. How it gets from the the SD card on the camera to any other place outside of your home network requires the date to go through the internet. A cloud is "space" in some form that stores data. It doesn't go from point A to point B without going through the internet. That's TCP/IP 101. TL;DR; If you are using a cloud of some sort, your data is on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Screwball said: I'm just asking questions. I have security cameras, 4 to exact. I cover most of my property and also see others. Mine are all wireless, but they are hooked into my home network. My home network is secure. If a camera triggers, a video is created, and stored internally to a SD card. I can access that through my computer, or phone, at any time. All safe, all internal to my network. I have an option to copy/store these videos to a cloud, which I assume is from the company that sells this stuff. I'm not interested. A picture or a video ends up as a file of some sort. You can move them. How it gets from the the SD card on the camera to any other place outside of your home network requires the date to go through the internet. A cloud is "space" in some form that stores data. It doesn't go from point A to point B without going through the internet. That's TCP/IP 101. TL;DR; If you are using a cloud of some sort, your data is on the internet. You can also set up secure internet access to the data on you home server. That’s what my NAS has options for. The data stays on my drives, the NAS hosts it securely to the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Screwball said: ... How it gets from the the SD card on the camera to any other place outside of your home network requires the date to go through the internet... Not if you use a flash drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pfife Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 yet another GOP freedom extravaganza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 They just passed a law in Indiana saying you can carry a gun without a permit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 9 hours ago, Tiger337 said: They just passed a law in Indiana saying you can carry a gun without a permit. Good thing too. The shooter was taken down by another armed citizen. You missed that little detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 So that's one instance in how many similar events. The Tigers have a better record of wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 15 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: There was more fire power at the school than defenders of the Alamo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 58 minutes ago, Archie said: Good thing too. The shooter was taken down by another armed citizen. You missed that little detail. When three people die and many more are injured, you're correct in that it is a "little detail". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 The thousands of people needlessly killed by guns was worth it so a guy in Indiana can shoot a guy with a gun who already killed three people. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Archie said: Good thing too. The shooter was taken down by another armed citizen. You missed that little detail. No, I didn't miss that detail. The problem is three people had already been shot, which doesn't happen much in other countries with stricter gun laws. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 It could have been a lot worse had it not been for the armed citizen. The bad guys will always find a way to get a gun or other weapon if they are set on hurting or killing. Thankfully there are law abiding citizens that are armed since we can't count on police to be there until after the crime and when they are we don't know if they can or willl do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Archie said: It could have been a lot worse had it not been for the armed citizen. The bad guys will always find a way to get a gun or other weapon if they are set on hurting or killing. Thankfully there are law abiding citizens that are armed since we can't count on police to be there until after the crime and when they are we don't know if they can or willl do anything. Why do other countries have fewer people being shot? We also have one of the biggest murder rates among developed countries and one of the shortest life expectancies. You would think that the pro-ilfe crowd would be concerned about these numbers. Edited July 18, 2022 by Tiger337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Why do other countries have fewer people being shot? We also have one of the biggest murder rates among developed countries and one of the shortest life expectancies. You would think that the pro-ilfe crowd would be concerned about these numbers. You can start with liberal policies that make the US less safe. Soft on crime, open borders, condoning terrorist acts and political correctness are just a few of the causes. The US isn't the safe place it was for those before us. People didn't carry firearms in the 1950s because it wasn't needed. Thanks to things listed above people need to protect themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Political correctness causes our big murder rate, folks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Archie said: You can start with liberal policies that make the US less safe. Soft on crime, open borders, condoning terrorist acts and political correctness are just a few of the causes. The US isn't the safe place it was for those before us. People didn't carry firearms in the 1950s because it wasn't needed. Thanks to things listed above people need to protect themselves. I know Fox News tells you that nothing bad ever happened in the 50s when you were a kid, but the homicide rate was only slightly lower back then. Liberal policies? How are we soft on crime? We incarcerate more people per capita than any country in the world. Open borders? Immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native born Americans. Stop believing everything that Fox News and Hate Radio tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, Archie said: The US isn't the safe place it was for those before us. People didn't carry firearms in the 1950s because it wasn't needed. Thanks to things listed above people need to protect themselves. I'm old enough to remember when a Conservative Gov of California pushed for gun control regulations after a few African Americans showed up on the grounds of the state capitol. You might want to look him up, guys name was Reagan. I also remember when the NRA stood for gun education and safety until a conservative lobbyist named LaPierre coopted the organization and paid a guy who was famous for mostly B movies (Moses was a bit part) to make an appearance promoting guns for everyone. The NRA and other manufacturers lobbies are more responsible than whatever "liberal Democrat" policies that I can think of. Hell we even had shoot em up westerns back in the 50s and 60s.... The current weapons of choice were not around in the 1950s and 60s. We had mostly hunting rifles and shotguns. The most popular rifle was a .22 or 30/06. Nothing that was capable of firing the number of rounds or as rapid as today's arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I know Fox News tells you that nothing bad ever happened in the 50s when you were a kid, but the homicide rate was only slightly lower back then. Liberal policies? How are we soft on crime? We incarcerate more people per capita than any country in the world. Open borders? Immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native born Americans. Stop believing everything that Fox News and Hate Radio tell you. Things didn't get bad until guys like Rush Limbaugh and his counterparts on AM radio and propaganda arms of the Republican Party started telling us that Democrats are the tool of the Devil and White Christian Republicans are God's chosen people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 If it's liberal policies, why does Indiana average more gun deaths than Illinois? Why does Massachusetts have some of the lowest gun deaths in the country and Louisiana among the highest? Why does gun toting Texas have a higher death rate than liberal California? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Just look at all those Librul States https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm Table Datatable showing data for the United States Map figure. LocationSort by location in no order Death Rate (Click for Rankings)Sort by death rate (click for rankings) in no order Deaths Sort by deaths in no order Alabama 23.6 1,141 Alaska 23.5 175 Arizona 16.7 1,265 Arkansas 22.6 673 California 8.5 3,449 Colorado 15.4 922 Connecticut 6 219 Delaware 14.4 135 Florida 13.7 3,041 Georgia 17.7 1,897 Hawaii 3.4 50 Idaho 17.6 321 Illinois 14.1 1,745 Indiana 17.3 1,159 Iowa 11.2 351 Kansas 16.9 494 Kentucky 20.1 902 Louisiana 26.3 1,183 Maine 10.4 153 Maryland 13.5 803 Massachusetts 3.7 268 Michigan 14.6 1,454 Minnesota 8.9 513 Mississippi 28.6 818 Missouri 23.9 1,426 Montana 20.9 238 Nebraska 10.1 197 Nevada 17 547 New Hampshire 8.9 128 New Jersey 5 443 New Mexico 22.7 479 New York 5.3 1,052 North Carolina 16 1,699 North Dakota 13.8 100 Ohio 15.2 1,764 Oklahoma 20.7 826 Oregon 13 592 Pennsylvania 13.6 1,752 Rhode Island 5.1 54 South Carolina 22 1,131 South Dakota 13.6 120 Tennessee 21.3 1,473 Texas 14.2 4,164 Utah 13.6 429 Vermont 11.6 76 Virginia 13.4 1,174 Washington 10.9 864 West Virginia 18.1 325 Wisconsin 12.2 717 Wyoming 25.9 154 Download Data (CSV) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Interesting. Democrats controlled both houses of Congress (with a couple of exceptions) in the '40s, 50s, and '60s when someone said we were safe, Republicans took over mostly in the '90s. Something conservative propaganda doesn't tell us about the good ole days. Keep in mind however most southern Democrats became Republicans in the mid 70s and 80s.... https://history.house.gov/Institution/Presidents-Coinciding/Party-Government/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said: Just look at all those Librul States https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm Table Datatable showing data for the United States Map figure. LocationSort by location in no order Death Rate (Click for Rankings)Sort by death rate (click for rankings) in no order Deaths Sort by deaths in no order Alabama 23.6 1,141 Alaska 23.5 175 Arizona 16.7 1,265 Arkansas 22.6 673 California 8.5 3,449 Colorado 15.4 922 Connecticut 6 219 Delaware 14.4 135 Florida 13.7 3,041 Georgia 17.7 1,897 Hawaii 3.4 50 Idaho 17.6 321 Illinois 14.1 1,745 Indiana 17.3 1,159 Iowa 11.2 351 Kansas 16.9 494 Kentucky 20.1 902 Louisiana 26.3 1,183 Maine 10.4 153 Maryland 13.5 803 Massachusetts 3.7 268 Michigan 14.6 1,454 Minnesota 8.9 513 Mississippi 28.6 818 Missouri 23.9 1,426 Montana 20.9 238 Nebraska 10.1 197 Nevada 17 547 New Hampshire 8.9 128 New Jersey 5 443 New Mexico 22.7 479 New York 5.3 1,052 North Carolina 16 1,699 North Dakota 13.8 100 Ohio 15.2 1,764 Oklahoma 20.7 826 Oregon 13 592 Pennsylvania 13.6 1,752 Rhode Island 5.1 54 South Carolina 22 1,131 South Dakota 13.6 120 Tennessee 21.3 1,473 Texas 14.2 4,164 Utah 13.6 429 Vermont 11.6 76 Virginia 13.4 1,174 Washington 10.9 864 West Virginia 18.1 325 Wisconsin 12.2 717 Wyoming 25.9 154 Download Data (CSV) Just for kicks, let's rank your list by highest firearms death rate and then color code the state by which party control the state legislature. Purple means the two bodies are split-party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Archie said: It could have been a lot worse had it not been for the armed citizen. The bad guys will always find a way to get a gun or other weapon if they are set on hurting or killing. Thankfully there are law abiding citizens that are armed since we can't count on police to be there until after the crime and when they are we don't know if they can or willl do anything. It could have been a lot better if the shooter didn't have a gun. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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