Gun Legislation, Crime, and Events

[chasfh]

51 minutes ago, pfife said:

Wrong.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm

 

Saw this and immediately felt the need to put this table together, ranked by 2020 firearm mortality rate, and using color-coding to show just how weighted to one party the problem really is.

I'm being generous by including governors here because the gun legislation comes from the state houses and senates, and not out of the governor's mansion.

 

 

 

[Archie]

I realize you post this to slant the info but if you want to be accurate you would need to break your graph down farther.  How many of these gun deaths come from big cities?  Big cities are where you find your gangs, unlawful gun owners and most of your gun related deaths.

[1984Echoes]

So in other words...

And put succinctly and in politically correct word usage:

REPUBLICANS and their SUPPORTERS are the FUCKING problem.

[Motown Bombers]

3 minutes ago, Archie said:

I realize you post this to slant the info but if you want to be accurate you would need to break your graph down farther.  How many of these gun deaths come from big cities?  Big cities are where you find your gangs, unlawful gun owners and most of your gun related deaths.

And yet the big cities are mostly in blue states which have less gun crime than red states.

[CMRivdogs]

So Chris is left of center but he makes a hell of a lot more sense than the Archie Papi Bot

 

[Tiger337]

22 minutes ago, Archie said:

I realize you post this to slant the info but if you want to be accurate you would need to break your graph down farther.  How many of these gun deaths come from big cities?  Big cities are where you find your gangs, unlawful gun owners and most of your gun related deaths.

I agree. There are too many gangs and unlawful gun owners terrorizing the big cities in Mississippi, Wyoming and Alaska

[Tiger337]

56 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Saw this and immediately felt the need to put this table together, ranked by 2020 firearm mortality rate, and using color-coding to show just how weighted to one party the problem really is.

I'm being generous by including governors here because the gun legislation comes from the state houses and senates, and not out of the governor's mansion.

 

 

 

This chart is awesome.  Thanks.  

[Motown Bombers]

2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I agree. There are too many gangs and unlawful gun owners terrorizing the big cities in Mississippi, Wyoming and Alaska

Cheyenne is not a place I want to be alone at night. 

[Motor City Sonics]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

This chart is awesome.  Thanks.  

That chart is sad. 

[Motor City Sonics]

Anything happen today, or do Fridays put people in a less murdery mood? 

Edited June 3, 2022 by Motor City Sonics

[Motor City Sonics]

Do you ever think about what you would do if you were in a normal situation and started hearing shooting?    Like when you are in a grocery store if you heard it from the other side of the building how you would get out?   I think about that all the time. 

Ever since the Station nightclub fire in Rhode Island (The Great White fire),  I ALWAYS check to see where the closest exits are whenever I go to a concert.   That place was fully engulfed in less than 5 minutes and most of the people died because everyone went to one exit which got jammed.   One of the audience members ran towards the stage and THROUGH the initial fire because he knew there was an open exit at the back of the stage and snow banks on the ground outside,  he did not get seriously burned and lived.   

Wish I didn't have to think about such things.  

[pfife]

2 hours ago, Archie said:

I realize you post this to slant the info but if you want to be accurate you would need to break your graph down farther.  How many of these gun deaths come from big cities?  Big cities are where you find your gangs, unlawful gun owners and most of your gun related deaths.

Or you could post your data to back up your positions champ

[pfife]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

Saw this and immediately felt the need to put this table together, ranked by 2020 firearm mortality rate, and using color-coding to show just how weighted to one party the problem really is.

I'm being generous by including governors here because the gun legislation comes from the state houses and senates, and not out of the governor's mansion.

 

 

 

Thanks man,  I was thinking New Mexico and Nevada are our blue states there's a ton of red on there.    

Glad I'm not volunteering to defend that shit seems like a bad plight 

[Tiger337]

26 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Do you ever think about what you would do if you were in a normal situation and started hearing shooting?    Like when you are in a grocery store if you heard it from the other side of the building how you would get out?   I think about that all the time. 

Ever since the Station nightclub fire in Rhode Island (The Great White fire),  I ALWAYS check to see where the closest exits are whenever I go to a concert.   That place was fully engulfed in less than 5 minutes and most of the people died because everyone went to one exit which got jammed.   One of the audience members ran towards the stage and THROUGH the initial fire because he knew there was an open exit at the back of the stage and snow banks on the ground outside,  he did not get seriously burned and lived.   

Wish I didn't have to think about such things.  

Archie would not try to get out.  He would find the shooter and take him out with one shot.  

 

 

 

[Tiger337]

That reminds me.  Where has JBK been lately?  Has anyone heard from him?  

[pfife]

That the cities in red states is seen as an indictment on Democrats is quite hilarious.   Like those cities aren't in those states and subject to the laws of those states.  Why aren't red state governments enacting policies at the state level do deal with issues within their states? 

[1984Echoes]

1 minute ago, Tiger337 said:

Archie would not try to get out.  He would find the shooter and take him out with one shot. 

I think Archie is full of hot fucking air and would piss his pants.

[Motown Bombers]

I was shocked to learn that as of 2019 Cheyenne WY has a higher murder rate than Los Angeles. 

[Edman85]

3 hours ago, Archie said:

I realize you post this to slant the info but if you want to be accurate you would need to break your graph down farther.  How many of these gun deaths come from big cities?  Big cities are where you find your gangs, unlawful gun owners and most of your gun related deaths.

Dog whistle much?

How are some of the states near the top lacking big cities?

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, Archie said:

I realize you post this to slant the info but if you want to be accurate you would need to break your graph down farther.  How many of these gun deaths come from big cities?  Big cities are where you find your gangs, unlawful gun owners and most of your gun related deaths.

Exactly how is the info "slanted"? It's firearms deaths by state, and political affiliation of their legislatures. It's all very straightforward information. What part do you not believe?

[chasfh]

4 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Cheyenne is not a place I want to be alone at night. 

Cheyenne is a neat little town in spots. It's like "Milwaukee" to Denver.

[chasfh]

3 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Do you ever think about what you would do if you were in a normal situation and started hearing shooting?    Like when you are in a grocery store if you heard it from the other side of the building how you would get out?   I think about that all the time.

I never think about it, and I live in THE bogeyman city.

Public mass shootings are so rare it's not even worth gaming out what to do if it happens. The only sure thing that happens during a mass shooting is chaos. Your only job is to hide or get the hell out of the way. You don't want to be the guy who starts shooting at a perp and ends up killing a bystander by complete accident. You wouldn't want that on your soul.

[Motor City Sonics]

9 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I never think about it, and I live in THE bogeyman city.

Public mass shootings are so rare it's not even worth gaming out what to do if it happens. The only sure thing that happens during a mass shooting is chaos. Your only job is to hide or get the hell out of the way. You don't want to be the guy who starts shooting at a perp and ends up killing a bystander by complete accident. You wouldn't want that on your soul.

But I'm the GOOD guy with the gun !

Edited June 4, 2022 by Motor City Sonics

[mtutiger]

We must always back the blue, 100%, no questions asked. /s

[mtutiger]

11 hours ago, pfife said:

That the cities in red states is seen as an indictment on Democrats is quite hilarious.   Like those cities aren't in those states and subject to the laws of those states.  Why aren't red state governments enacting policies at the state level do deal with issues within their states? 

As I've often complained on this board, particularly during COVID, the red state I live in has worked overtime to try and take authorities away from County Judges and Mayors and vest more power in the state.

So yeah, there's absolutely no problem in ensuring that the state gets their fair share of the blame in terms of outcomes.