Gun Legislation, Crime, and Events

[Tigeraholic1]

30 minutes ago, ewsieg said:

It seems like all of you folks claim you hate Twitter, but then someone says something on Twitter, which is horribly slanted, you agree with it and love it.  I don't get it.  One person said there was 17 people with guns, in reading the story, the first person at the scene didn't have a gun and yelled at the person which spooked the assailant and caused him to flee.  

No one else was injured, no one was shot by accident.  It is a horrible story, but outside of one eye witness that it sounds like showed up after the fact, this story is not about guns.  

Don't let facts get in the way of a good laugh.

[pfife]

Right after you let facts get in the way of your preferred social policy. 

[pfife]

That guy who Chas posted who said "PLUS all killers are stopped by good...."

Many mass shooters kill themselves.  He seems to be claiming that those mass shooters who take their own lives are "good".

[Tiger337]

2 hours ago, ewsieg said:

It seems like all of you folks claim you hate Twitter, but then someone says something on Twitter, which is horribly slanted, you agree with it and love it.  I don't get it.  One person said there was 17 people with guns, in reading the story, the first person at the scene didn't have a gun and yelled at the person which spooked the assailant and caused him to flee.  

No one else was injured, no one was shot by accident.  It is a horrible story, but outside of one eye witness that it sounds like showed up after the fact, this story is not about guns.  

I don't hate twitter.  I think the owner is a moron, but it remains a fairly useful media tool.  

[Crazy Cat Gentleman]

 

[Crazy Cat Gentleman]

plus we had this knuckleknob a few weeks ago: https://www.koin.com/news/tsa-investigating-how-washington-state-senators-handgun-got-past-pdx-security-checkpoint/amp/

I'm flying out of PDX tomorrow and am expecting a total ****show.

[CMRivdogs]

 

[Motor City Sonics]

6 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

But wait, I thought it was a Mental Health issue?     Guess not. 

[Tiger337]

7 hours ago, CMRivdogs said:

 

11 per 100,000 gun deaths sounded high.  But I did the math and it looks about right.  

[gehringer_2]

16 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

11 per 100,000 gun deaths sounded high.  But I did the math and it looks about right.  

Gun deaths in America distribute in a severe dumbbell with the worst areas around 40 and most everywhere else at or below 1.5 to 3. This is why as bad as the numbers are, gun deaths are not a political liability for gun rights activists - for those mostly rural and suburban people, guns deaths are something that happen somewhere else. As mass shooting incidents just keep getting more widespread that is not quite as true as it used to be, but it's still pretty true because total numbers remain dominated by street crime numbers, which remains highly localized.

Edited November 17, 2023 by gehringer_2

[Tiger337]

They probably don't want CDC finding out that people living in households with guns are twice as likely to be shot to death than those who live in households without guns.  

[chasfh]

12 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

But wait, I thought it was a Mental Health issue?     Guess not. 

They say it is a mental health issue, which is why they voted against studying it. Study the source, not the outcome, I guess.

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Gun deaths in America distribute in a severe dumbbell with the worst areas around 40 and most everywhere else at or below 1.5 to 3. This is why as bad as the numbers are, gun deaths are not a political liability for gun rights activists - for those mostly rural and suburban people, guns deaths are something that happen somewhere else.

And not only that it happens elsewhere, but if people living elsewhere get shot, it’s their own damn fault for being whatever it is they are that got them shot. If they would just stop smoking crack and rioting and wearing their pants way too low, they wouldn’t get shot.

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

They probably don't want CDC finding out that people living in households with guns are twice as likely to be shot to death than those who live in households without guns.  

That’s part of it, yeah.

[Motor City Sonics]

5 hours ago, chasfh said:

And not only that it happens elsewhere, but if people living elsewhere get shot, it’s their own damn fault for being whatever it is they are that got them shot. If they would just stop smoking crack and rioting and wearing their pants way too low, they wouldn’t get shot.

Or if they'd stop going shopping or to parades or going to school, then they would be just fine.     They're playin' with fire there.   

 

 

[Tiger337]

11 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Or if they'd stop going shopping or to parades or going to school, then they would be just fine.     They're playin' with fire there.   

 

 

Actually, if they just gave guns to everybody and locked all the doors, no more good people would get shot.    

[Motor City Sonics]

5 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Actually, if they just gave guns to everybody and locked all the doors, no more good people would get shot.    

you commie

[Motor City Sonics]

The Oxford shooter.  Life without parole.   Good.   I don't feel sorry for him at all.   

 

Now, for the parents who completely enabled this.......they deserve many years in prison, but I think they'll ultimately get away with what they did.   Evil people.  

[Motor City Sonics]

A lot of people outside of West Michigan are not familiar with Shanda Vander Ark.  

This is the most sadistic, evil person in the state of Michigan.    if anyone ever deserved the Death Penalty it's her. 

[Sports_Freak]

7 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

A lot of people outside of West Michigan are not familiar with Shanda Vander Ark.  

This is the most sadistic, evil person in the state of Michigan.    if anyone ever deserved the Death Penalty it's her. 

I had never heard of her. After looking it up, I wish I still never had. And I agree with you. Total evil...

[Motor City Sonics]

58 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

I had never heard of her. After looking it up, I wish I still never had. And I agree with you. Total evil...

Did you catch her on the stand.   Talks about what she did like you and I talk about baseball stats, but with less passion.  Total Sociopath.  

[Tiger337]

12 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

  Talks about what she did like you and I talk about baseball stats

Is that a bad thing?  

[Motor City Sonics]

7 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

Is that a bad thing?  

Read about her or see the footage of her on the stand at your own risk.    She literally starved and tortured her autistic son to death.  Only allowed him to eat bread soaked in Million-Scoville hot sauce (once he built up a tolerance to other sauces).  Put motion sensors on him (literally ON him) and punished him if he moved.  Locked food away from him.  Put cameras all over the house to monitor every move.  Made him sit in ice baths as a punishment.   15 years old at the time of his death. 67 lbs.      She talked about those things like they're normal and no big deal  "oh, he liked spicy food" (which is why his older brother had to force his mouth open to eat the bread/hot sauce).     She worked at the courthouse as a clerk and often would remind people of how smart she is.     NO emotion.  Pure monster.   If the Judge had hit her in the head with the gavel I think everyone in the courtroom would have cheered, including her own attorney.     

Edited December 23, 2023 by Motor City Sonics

[Sports_Freak]

On 12/22/2023 at 8:21 PM, Motor City Sonics said:

Did you catch her on the stand.   Talks about what she did like you and I talk about baseball stats, but with less passion.  Total Sociopath.  

No, I just read an article detailing her abuse. That was enough for me, I didn't need to dig anymore. 

[Motor City Sonics]

To me, What the Crumbley parents didn't understand is that the second you have a child,  you become secondary in your life.  It's all about them.   Seems they didn't want to cramp their style.   I didn't feel sorry for the shooter, but I kind of do now.  I mean, he deserves jail time, but I feel like he was more of a nuisance for the parents than actually the most important person in their world.   Selfish people aren't typically good parents.