Gun Legislation, Crime, and Events

[Tiger337]

5 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

I bet everyones heads will explode when Trump pardons the J6'ers. 

They should.  Even though we know it's coming, we should.  J6 (including everything that came before and after) is a huge stain on this country.  

[Tiger337]

You know what else is inconsistent? Tigeraholic being a conservative Trump skeptic for years and then going full MAGA instantaneously.  wtf is that?  

[CMRivdogs]

Trolling

9 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

You know what else is inconsistent? Tigeraholic being a conservative Trump skeptic for years and then going full MAGA instantaneously.  wtf is that?  

Trolling

[romad1]

bsky on the United Healthcare CEO shooting has been the one time I've been a bit disappointment in its "antibodies" of that platform, because a lot of folks are leaning into the wrong narratives on that one. 

He can be a member of a distasteful class of people and a human being at the same time.   Now, he's probably the Brent character from "The Good Place" (i.e., an unreconstructable born-on-third-base person with limited empathy) but, people hooting about someone finally putting some fear into the type of people who want to deny sick kids on chemotherapy anti-nausea meds, or anesthesia while you are under the knife (the Anthem news that was out there) is not a good trend.  

All that said, dude had a silencer on his pistol.  That means he had a pistol that required a tax stamp.  I'd be amazed if that isn't making the big data swoop on his identity much easier. 

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

You know what else is inconsistent? Tigeraholic being a conservative Trump skeptic for years and then going full MAGA instantaneously.  wtf is that?  

Yeah, remember this guy? I miss this guy.

 

[ben9753]

2 hours ago, romad1 said:

bsky on the United Healthcare CEO shooting has been the one time I've been a bit disappointment in its "antibodies" of that platform, because a lot of folks are leaning into the wrong narratives on that one. 

He can be a member of a distasteful class of people and a human being at the same time.   Now, he's probably the Brent character from "The Good Place" (i.e., an unreconstructable born-on-third-base person with limited empathy) but, people hooting about someone finally putting some fear into the type of people who want to deny sick kids on chemotherapy anti-nausea meds, or anesthesia while you are under the knife (the Anthem news that was out there) is not a good trend.  

All that said, dude had a silencer on his pistol.  That means he had a pistol that required a tax stamp.  I'd be amazed if that isn't making the big data swoop on his identity much easier. 

The wall to wall coverage for the better part of a week is getting to be a bit much. A dude was targeted and shot. Suspect at large.
Many such cases. 

[pfife]

My understanding is many social media sites including x and linked in are behaving similarly about the murder.

[Tigeraholic1]

26 minutes ago, ben9753 said:

The wall to wall coverage for the better part of a week is getting to be a bit much. A dude was targeted and shot. Suspect at large.
Many such cases. 

Umm he was killed two days ago.....

[Motor City Sonics]

When you work in an industry that routinely screws people over at their most vulnerable, don't be surprised with a desperate victim or family member of one lashes out.     Just read a story about the denial of a life-altering surgery denied over and over because of precise wording -- even after pleas from doctors trying to save this teenage girl.   It wasn't United Health Care, but they're all the same.     Insurance is a racket and always has been.   When guys with Italian names in striped suits do it it's considered illegal.    Universal Health Care would eliminate much of that, but we all know that will never happen here.     Oh yes, and the Canadian and English systems are far from perfect, but is anything actually perfect?   Our system sure isn't.  

[Motor City Sonics]

Just saw some thing about what Diddy's life is probably like in jail - because he's housed in one of the worst jails in America.    I was speculating to myself about how foolishly arrogant Diddy was.    Not that I would ever behave in the way he did, but if I had heard the Feds were about to crack down on me, I'd have been on a plane to a country without extradition and I would have been bribing the head of that country to keep me there.    Oh, I know he tried to escape, but he waited way too long.   He thought he was untouchable, and my guess is that he'll Bribe Trump and Trump will pardon him, but the second I heard there was anything was up,  I would have been gone.

 

What about all the other big names that were part of the "Freak Offs"?   Why aren't they being arrested?    People knew about this **** for years.   

Edited December 8, 2024 by Motor City Sonics

[romad1]

On 12/6/2024 at 9:27 AM, ben9753 said:

The wall to wall coverage for the better part of a week is getting to be a bit much. A dude was targeted and shot. Suspect at large.
Many such cases. 

 

9 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

When you work in an industry that routinely screws people over at their most vulnerable, don't be surprised with a desperate victim or family member of one lashes out.     Just read a story about the denial of a life-altering surgery denied over and over because of precise wording -- even after pleas from doctors trying to save this teenage girl.   It wasn't United Health Care, but they're all the same.     Insurance is a racket and always has been.   When guys with Italian names in striped suits do it it's considered illegal.    Universal Health Care would eliminate much of that, but we all know that will never happen here.     Oh yes, and the Canadian and English systems are far from perfect, but is anything actually perfect?   Our system sure isn't.  

All true.  The level of concern for being targeted is very high among a stratus of people who think they are above reproach and for whom can buy ink by the barrel metaphorically.

[gehringer_2]

It will be interesting in the end (if it is solved) if this was really a revenge killing based on someone mad at UHC, or a professional job with a more esoteric motive (i.e. likely financial) set up to look just enough like a revenge job to generate that kind of assumption in the media coverage.

[romad1]

57 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

It will be interesting in the end (if it is solved) if this was really a revenge killing based on someone mad at UHC, or a professional job with a more esoteric motive (i.e. likely financial) set up to look just enough like a revenge job to generate that kind of assumption in the media coverage.

somebody posted a meme with the Law and Order writers room losing their minds over the possibilities.   Their twist would be that it was his cheating wife or his gay kid or his business rival but that they violated some procedural matter and the killer got off.  

[Tigeraholic1]

2 hours ago, romad1 said:

 

All true.  The level of concern for being targeted is very high among a stratus of people who think they are above reproach and for whom can buy ink by the barrel metaphorically.

Like Biden and the upcoming plethora of pardons he is going to issue. Great comparison.

[LaceyLou]

2 hours ago, romad1 said:

somebody posted a meme with the Law and Order writers room losing their minds over the possibilities.   Their twist would be that it was his cheating wife or his gay kid or his business rival but that they violated some procedural matter and the killer got off.  

IIRC there was an episode of Law and Order in which a man kills the insurance employee he saw as responsible for denying his child life-saving care. So maybe this was somebody who saw the episode and got the idea? I doubt it, but you really never know these days.

[gehringer_2]

34 minutes ago, LaceyLou said:

IIRC there was an episode of Law and Order in which a man kills the insurance employee he saw as responsible for denying his child life-saving care. So maybe this was somebody who saw the episode and got the idea? I doubt it, but you really never know these days.

It's always struck me that if you are going to kill someone in retribution, you want them to know it, and this guy was shot in the back, but the other take on that would be that in the end the killer decided he would lose his nerve if he faced him.

[Motor City Sonics]

43 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

It's always struck me that if you are going to kill someone in retribution, you want them to know it, and this guy was shot in the back, but the other take on that would be that in the end the killer decided he would lose his nerve if he faced him.

perhaps he's letting the whole industry know it.     Who knows the motive, but it appeared to be quite planned and targeted.  

[Motor City Sonics]

3 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Like Biden and the upcoming plethora of pardons he is going to issue. Great comparison.

Wonder if any of them tried to storm the Capital and kill the Vice President or Speaker of The House.  

[romad1]

51 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Wonder if any of them tried to storm the Capital and kill the Vice President or Speaker of The House.  

Hunter Biden and RFK Jr. had basically the same trajectory.  Fail sons with drug problems.  The RW propaganda machine is way more effective if you compare those two. 

[pfife]

If Biden pardoned Dinesh and Blago Magaholic would vote for him

[Motor City Sonics]

My Person Of the Year is Karen McDonald, Oakland County Prosecutor for her team prosecuting Jennifer and James Crumbley.    She may have started something.   She may have set an important precedent.  

[Tigeraholic1]

13 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Wonder if any of them tried to storm the Capital and kill the Vice President or Speaker of The House.  

Could you please expalin why Hunter Bidens pardon goes back to 2014 rather than the time frame of the current charges? I will take my answer off the air.

[Motor City Sonics]

8 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Could you please expalin why Hunter Bidens pardon goes back to 2014 rather than the time frame of the current charges? I will take my answer off the air.

Hey, he shouldn't be pardoned, but dozens of lunatics who wanted to kill people and charged are Capital shouldn't be pardoned either.  And those idiots will probably get a Presidential Medal of Freedom.          When Trump uses his powers to get himself out of jail or any sentence, I hear nothing from you.      He's a Convicted Felon, he shouldn't even be allowed to serve.  

[Tigeraholic1]

20 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Hey, he shouldn't be pardoned, but dozens of lunatics who wanted to kill people and charged are Capital shouldn't be pardoned either.  And those idiots will probably get a Presidential Medal of Freedom.          When Trump uses his powers to get himself out of jail or any sentence, I hear nothing from you.      He's a Convicted Felon, he shouldn't even be allowed to serve.  

I will help answer for you. Joe was involved with Hunters dealings in Ukraine and pardoning Jr helps keep Joe out of trouble, why else would he set those particular years as parameters? 

Remember when Biden tried to be Brad Homes and traded a basketball player for  Russian Viktor Bout with the catchey nickname "merchant of death".  Such a republican thing to do.....

[pfife]

As a troll once infamously and also conveniently said last week: Its 2024 bub