Gun Legislation, Crime, and Events

[Tigeraholic1]

24 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I don't really care about Hunter Biden one way or the other, but I don't believe in Presidental pardons in general.  

You don’t feel the idea of anything connecting them to Ukraine deals has anything to do with it? Or even If it did it doesn’t really matter.

[pfife]

3 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

What is your take on the pardon going back conveniently to 2014. Why not just make it about the hun and tax charges?

Again as you once said but fail to apply to yourself, per yoosh: Its 2024 bub

Also the dude lied about burisma and pled guilty to it in 2024.   Read up 

[pfife]

1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

You don’t feel the idea of anything connecting them to Ukraine deals has anything to do with it? Or even If it did it doesn’t really matter.

You voted for a felon and brag about it.   You're high on your horse

[Screwball]

A 15 year old girl as I understand it. WTF? I wonder what she was dealing with?

I have a daughter who was once 15 for the record. Awful stuff.

[gehringer_2]

2 hours ago, Screwball said:

A 15 year old girl as I understand it. WTF? I wonder what she was dealing with?

I have a daughter who was once 15 for the record. Awful stuff.

Sounds like epic family dysfunction, and then dad deciding the shooting range would be a good bonding place.....

[Tigeraholic1]

6 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Sounds like epic family dysfunction, and then dad deciding the shooting range would be a good bonding place.....

They once again need to throw the book at the parents like the kid in Michigan. Most of these shootings can be prevented with proper firearms storage ie lock that *hit up or go to prison.

[pfife]

You voted for the politicians who are against that LOL

[chasfh]

11 hours ago, oblong said:

I think it’s wild that people that claim to be Christian are Donald Trump supporters.  

That’s because “Christian” doesn’t really reflect piety, charity, or even religiosity anymore, at least not in today’s America. It’s a virtue signal for a selfish, ruthless, fascist political movement.

 

Edited December 18, 2024 by chasfh

[Tigeraholic1]

The non-relgious telling everyone how to be religious.

[gehringer_2]

12 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

The non-relgious telling everyone how to be religious.

LOL - well, the religious aren't doing a very good job of it so somebody has to.

[Tigeraholic1]

5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

LOL - well, the religious aren't doing a very good job of it so somebody has to.

The holier than thou approach.

[CMRivdogs]

The so called religious, seem to forget the basic part of Christ's teachings from the Sermon on the Mount. Too much time on the Old Testament, not enough on the New.

Thanks to guys like Falwell and Robertson the church got too involved in politics and forgot about tending their flocks. 

Don't get me started on SuperChurches.

[gehringer_2]

1 minute ago, CMRivdogs said:

the Old Testament

The Torah is a pretty frightening thing to read carefully. I'd actually call it schizophrenic - there is the first glimmering of NT/SOTM theology in there, but it struggles to emerge from the scorched earth, vengeance laden, 'kill 'em all' bronze age ethos that mostly predominates.

[Tigeraholic1]

I only was speaking to Biden pardoning his son for a gun charge then him calling for gun reform. This lead to a brow beating about religion, weird.

[gehringer_2]

10 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

The holier than thou approach.

It is a paradox, dilemma, whatever. Those Churches that in theory would have the moral authority to be critical of their brethren mostly aren't, because it's not the kind of thing they do, exactly because they are what they are. But non-evangelical US Christianity could use some kind of re-brand to distinguish itself from the politicos.

[Tigerbomb13]

Always the victim. Always. 

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

I only was speaking to Biden pardoning his son for a gun charge then him calling for gun reform. This lead to a brow beating about religion, weird.

I think more people here respect religion than you think.  Over in the religion thread, there was a long drawn out discussion about the existence of God and almost everyone either believed in God or thought that is reasonable to think that some kind of supreme being exists.  There were only a couple of all out atheists in the discussion.  What people don't like is people who don't seem to be very Christian pretending they are better than everyone else and telling people how to to behave and what to think.  

[oblong]

it wasn't a brow beating about religion.  Some people are just too defensive of their hypocrisy

 

 

[Tigeraholic1]

54 minutes ago, oblong said:

it wasn't a brow beating about religion.  Some people are just too defensive of their hypocrisy

 

 

Again, I was talking about the president pardoning his son for a gun charge. You keep chasing my comments arounf talking about youth pastors and what not.

[Tigeraholic1]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

I think more people here respect religion than you think.  Over in the religion thread, there was a long drawn out discussion about the existence of God and almost everyone either believed in God or thought that is reasonable to think that some kind of supreme being exists.  There were only a couple of all out atheists in the discussion.  What people don't like is people who don't seem to be very Christian pretending they are better than everyone else and telling people how to to behave and what to think.  

Agree with all that. Like I said, I was discussing guns and pardons, then religion got brought into the conversation. I never mentioned religion once in this topic.

[oblong]

22 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Again, I was talking about the president pardoning his son for a gun charge. You keep chasing my comments arounf talking about youth pastors and what not.

The president is a hypocrite for what he did.  No question.

I'm just adding other examples of hypocrites.  I think Christians who support Trump should keep quiet and sit out on discussions of things like that because they are no better.

 

[Tigeraholic1]

6 minutes ago, oblong said:

The president is a hypocrite for what he did.  No question.

I'm just adding other examples of hypocrites.  I think Christians who support Trump should keep quiet and sit out on discussions of things like that because they are no better.

 

So if you support Dems/Biden that makes somone a good/better christian? Then you are allowed to talk about these things?

[pfife]

I dont think Biden was hypocritical in this instance.   I also think pointing out a politicians hypocrisy isnt super difficult 

[gehringer_2]

53 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Again, I was talking about the president pardoning his son for a gun charge. You keep chasing my comments arounf talking about youth pastors and what not.

But we don't own the threads we post in or even the subtopics within. When someone adds another issue to a thread that's their option (up to the limits of the moderation) and the OP doesn't need to feel obligated to defend or police any subsequent direction the discussion goes. You questioned the logic, Rob said why he thought it was appropriate and on we go.

Edited December 18, 2024 by gehringer_2

[gehringer_2]

36 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

So if you support Dems/Biden that makes somone a good/better christian? Then you are allowed to talk about these things?

I'm not so naive to think bad people can't pursue beneficial political policies (often accidental to some other not so beneficial objective!) and vice versa, but to anyone who supports Trump *because* they think he is some kind of latter day Christian Paladin, I would say you are deluded.