casimir Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, chasfh said: I'm thinking Ohtani is tired of not winning, and none of those teams are as likely to win a World Series as Los Angeles is in the near future. 3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Either that or he wanted 700 million. Well, the Dodgers probably have the biggest bag and best chance at regular season winning among the teams that were rumored to be in the scrum. So, that’s a convenient combination if Ohtani wanted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Either that or he wanted 700 million. Angels should have offered 700.1 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaDreaming Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Mike Trout is the 3rd highest paid hitter and Gerrit Cole is the 3rd highest paid pitcher. Ottani is making just under what the two of them make put together. Good job by his agent to get him paid as BOTH a pitcher AND a hitter. Angels OF Mike Trout: $37,116,666 Yankees SP Gerrit Cole: $36,000,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: Angels should have offered 700.1 million. 750 million probably would have been enough. But if he really wants to win, then Toronto or Seattle would have been good choices. I doubt they offered him 700 million though. Edited December 9, 2023 by Tiger337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: 750 million probably would have been enough. I’d’of held out for a company car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: The Dodgers just screwed everyone. I would imagine most of the other owners are livid. I fully expect other owners file law suits. Edited December 9, 2023 by 1776 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 46 minutes ago, casimir said: I chose the wrong profession. I chose the wrong team… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, 1776 said: I fully expect other owners file law suits. tell me how thats going to work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 55 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: 750 million probably would have been enough. But if he really wants to win, then Toronto or Seattle would have been good choices. I doubt they offered him 700 million though. Neither of those teams, in my opinion, are as likely to make the playoffs, and to win the World Series, as the Dodgers. If putting himself in the best position to win was his #1 priority, then he probably made the best choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 And the tickets are probably the least of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, chasfh said: Neither of those teams, in my opinion, are as likely to make the playoffs, and to win the World Series, as the Dodgers. If putting himself in the best position to win was his #1 priority, then he probably made the best choice. Add Ohtani and the Blue Jays and Mariners are likely to make the playoffs. I really doubt he chose the Dodgers because they are more of a winner than those teams. It's not like they are the Athletics. I think he signed with the closest to home west coast team that offered him the most money. If the Dofgers offered 650 million and the Mariners offered 700 million, which team do you think he would have chosen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 41 minutes ago, chasfh said: I think Ohtaniis such an Unicorn that you cant compare him with anyone we've ever seen in baseball so he's contract may not be seen for a long time. Juan Soto probably wants 700 million also but hes no where worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, 1776 said: I fully expect other owners file law suits. I don't know about lawsuits, but if the Dodgers defer a sustantial portion of the contract so that they can avoid going over the tax threshold each year, I can see other teams getting upset. I won't pretend to know what the CBA says about that, but it could be viewed as going against the spirit of the CBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I think the lawsuit talk is a joke about the fella that suggested the Tigers sue Rodriguez for… something. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Add Ohtani and the Blue Jays and Mariners are likely to make the playoffs. Add Ohtani and the Blue Jays and Mariners are likely to make the playoffs. I really doubt he chose the Dodgers because they are more of a winner than those teams. It's not like they are the Athletics. I think he signed with the closest to home west coast team that offered him the most money. If the Dofgers offered 650 million and the Mariners offered 700 million, which team do you think he would have chosen? Ohtani will have better players around him with the Dodgers than he would have with the Blue Jays or Mariners, so their chances of making the playoffs and winning a ring will be higher. I don't doubt at all that he chose Dodgers because they are more of a winner, in addition to getting the highest offer. Elite athletes are hard-wired to want to win. They were also in the best position to offer him the most money since they generate the most revenue. I don't think the Mariners were in a position to offer 650 million. Even so, is there really a substantial marginal difference between 650 million and 700 million such that a player would choose to lose with a team to get that difference? I don't think so. I certainly wouldn't want to work at a terrible company because they offered me marginally more money. Hell, I did something like that during my own career and really regretted it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, Toddwert said: I think Ohtaniis such an Unicorn that you cant compare him with anyone we've ever seen in baseball so he's contract may not be seen for a long time. Juan Soto probably wants 700 million also but hes no where worth it I agree Juan Soto won't get 700 million, but he probably will get more than he would have had Ohtani signed for "only" four-something. He might even get six-something now, which I don't think anyone would have suggested before the Ohtani signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, CaliforniaDreaming said: That is just insane. I can't imagine that the last 4 years of that contract are going to be pleasant. But who knows.... Doubly ironic in the face of all the RSNs going belly up. On the consumer end its hard to see where more media income growth can come, everyone and his uncle is looking for ways to pare down their home media costs. That is the single biggest piece of what pays sports salaries. Next few years should be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, chasfh said: Ohtani will have better players around him with the Dodgers than he would have with the Blue Jays or Mariners, so their chances of making the playoffs and winning a ring will be higher. I don't doubt at all that he chose Dodgers because they are more of a winner, in addition to getting the highest offer. Elite athletes are hard-wired to want to win. They were also in the best position to offer him the most money since they generate the most revenue. I don't think the Mariners were in a position to offer 650 million. Even so, is there really a substantial marginal difference between 650 million and 700 million such that a player would choose to lose with a team to get that difference? I don't think so. I certainly wouldn't want to work at a terrible company because they offered me marginally more money. Hell, I did something like that during my own career and really regretted it! The Blue Jays and Mariners have very good teams with young stars and would have gotten even better with Ohtani. They are not loser teams. You've been pushing the idea for years that nobody will sign with the Tigers because they are not a winner, but I don't think it applies here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 45 minutes ago, Toddwert said: I think Ohtaniis such an Unicorn that you cant compare him with anyone we've ever seen in baseball so he's contract may not be seen for a long time. Juan Soto probably wants 700 million also but hes no where worth it True - it could be like the ARod contract. IIRC that first big deal of ARod's stood unmatched for years because there just weren't any other 1000 OPS Shortstops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 He wanted to save on moving costs and his dog likes where they live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Tenacious D said: My buddy, who is a big Dodgers fan, just texted that he hopes that Ohtani doesn’t like rough sex. Hilarious. Or beat his wife/girlfriend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 hours ago, oblong said: I think the lawsuit talk is a joke about the fella that suggested the Tigers sue Rodriguez for… something. I was joking about a lawsuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 hours ago, oblong said: I think the lawsuit talk is a joke about the fella that suggested the Tigers sue Rodriguez for… something. I think that goes back to suing Austin Meadows if he returns to MLB with another team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAbbott Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 hours ago, oblong said: I think the lawsuit talk is a joke about the fella that suggested the Tigers sue Rodriguez for… something. Who gives a rip about lawsuits anyway? You can sue a ham sandwich. If the market can truly afford this, LA will laugh all the way to the bank. If it's an organizational threatening overpay, I don't care so long as I don't have to pony up. If someone were to ask me to bail out the Dodgers. I would vehemently insist they perform a difficult anatomical act with a rolling doughnut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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