Jim Cowan Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: does what you are seeing discriminate between trying to throw harder sliders vs just harder fastballs? There has certainly been an uptick in very hard sliders in recent years, though the sudden rage for the 'sweeper' does seem to be a move back the other way. LOL "sweeper", I don't recall having seen that description before this year...actually, before June this year. It's like if you say "curve ball" you will be kicked out of the analytics frat and your street address will be published on a SABR chat room. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 I didn't know that there was a gold glove award for utility fielders. I like it. I was listening to Dan Patrick interview Harold Reynolds one day. They were discussing the actual trophy. Turns out Reynolds' was pretty much a mitt and baseball spray painted and glued to a base, almost like a cub scout project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Jim Cowan said: LOL "sweeper", I don't recall having seen that description before this year...actually, before June this year. It's like if you say "curve ball" you will be kicked out of the analytics frat and your street address will be published on a SABR chat room. I guess 'Slurve' has been banished to the dictionary's 'archaic' headings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Whelp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 This is a tough choice My heart says Leyland and Piniella. But Gaston and West are solid choices as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 11 hours ago, casimir said: I didn't know that there was a gold glove award for utility fielders. I like it. I was listening to Dan Patrick interview Harold Reynolds one day. They were discussing the actual trophy. Turns out Reynolds' was pretty much a mitt and baseball spray painted and glued to a base, almost like a cub scout project. Everybody gets a trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 I took that at the HOF a few weeks ago. One of Johnny Bench’s GG awards. For a real laugh here’s Trammell’s WS MVP award. Looks like something from 1897 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, oblong said: What’s with the crap in the background? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 57 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Everybody gets a trophy. Shane Halter sees this and seethes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 On 10/18/2023 at 10:53 PM, gehringer_2 said: does what you are seeing discriminate between trying to throw harder sliders vs just harder fastballs? There has certainly been an uptick in very hard sliders in recent years, though the sudden rage for the 'sweeper' does seem to be a move back the other way. Increased Pitch Velocity Is Associated With Throwing Arm Kinetics, Injury Risk, and Ulnar Collateral Ligament Reconstruction in Adolescent, Collegiate, and Professional Baseball Pitchers: A Qualitative Systematic Review: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36649827/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 13 hours ago, casimir said: What’s with the crap in the background? It made me angry to see them so close like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, oblong said: It made me angry to see them so close like that. You should'of asked to speak with a manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 hours ago, chasfh said: Increased Pitch Velocity Is Associated With Throwing Arm Kinetics, Injury Risk, and Ulnar Collateral Ligament Reconstruction in Adolescent, Collegiate, and Professional Baseball Pitchers: A Qualitative Systematic Review: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36649827/ !!! Quote : Higher pitch velocity is the most predictive factor of UCLR in MLB pitchers, with higher weight and younger age being secondary predictors, although these factors only explained 7% of the variance in UCLR rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gilmore Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Higher weight? 🧐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 7 hours ago, chasfh said: Increased Pitch Velocity Is Associated With Throwing Arm Kinetics, Injury Risk, and Ulnar Collateral Ligament Reconstruction in Adolescent, Collegiate, and Professional Baseball Pitchers: A Qualitative Systematic Review: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36649827/ Nice find. Explains a bit for sure - and with said that today's players are bigger, stronger and faster (better trained in some respects) - this is also part of that equation perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 5 hours ago, alex said: Nice find. Explains a bit for sure - and with said that today's players are bigger, stronger and faster (better trained in some respects) - this is also part of that equation perhaps. I think you're onto something. I'd think it is very possible that pitchers, and players in general, overtrain, perhaps making them more vulnerable to injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 15 hours ago, chasfh said: I think you're onto something. I'd think it is very possible that pitchers, and players in general, overtrain, perhaps making them more vulnerable to injury. While I wouldn't disagree baseball pitchers may well be over-training for strength as opposed to flexibility and elasticity, my question would be why would this be suddenly worse in the last 10 yrs? High intensity training regimes are nothing new in this period, they've been around for decades at this point. What do you suppose has changed? Seems some kind of creeping philosophical change has to have been at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) Bob Melvin to interview for the SF manager’s gig. He’s a Palo Alto native and bay area guy. I’m thinking he’s the next SF manager. Edited October 23, 2023 by 1776 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 11:47 AM, gehringer_2 said: While I wouldn't disagree baseball pitchers may well be over-training for strength as opposed to flexibility and elasticity, my question would be why would this be suddenly worse in the last 10 yrs? High intensity training regimes are nothing new in this period, they've been around for decades at this point. What do you suppose has changed? Seems some kind of creeping philosophical change has to have been at work. I think the overtraining might have been worsened in the past decade or so by the accelerated trend toward seeking ever-greater velocity coupled with movement, driven by the need to generate swing-and-miss in order to avoid the home run at all costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Attempting not to be political, but this sounds like a big deal. Not sure what the implications would be if Baseball's Anti-trust exemption was revoked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: Attempting not to be political, but this sounds like a big deal. Not sure what the implications would be if Baseball's Anti-trust exemption was revoked. I don't really care about the exemption as legal doctrine, but I guess I don't see anything but hand waving in this brief to support the anti-competitive piece of their argument. Companies expand and contract every day with jobs lost. And nothing in the reduction in the number of affiliated MiLB clubs prevents other sub MLB level baseball players/teams/towns from establishing independent teams - in fact MLB expressly tried to vaccinate themselves in this regard by advising disaffiliated team to go that route. The fact that the route is not economically viable acts more to support MLB's actions than prove anti-competitive behavior. I wish them luck but I'm not putting money on this brief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 15 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: Attempting not to be political, but this sounds like a big deal. Not sure what the implications would be if Baseball's Anti-trust exemption was revoked. Thank you for posting this. Very informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Bob Melvin is officially named new Giants manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, 1776 said: Bob Melvin is officially named new Giants manager. Very odd. Goes to a division rival. Preller must have convinced SD ownership that he was the reason they underperformed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 He and Preller didn’t get along, at all. They weren’t on the same page about anything and it just came to a head. Good for Melvin. He’s a Bay Area native. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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