Tigeraholic1 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 14 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Odd bird: Bats right, throws left. I bat RH throw RH but write with my left hand. Odd bird indeed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Ibanez has been in a 2 week death spiral and is somehow how worse than Schoop, who at least gives you some D and singles vs. LHP. Carpenter and Kreidler's injuries are keeping them both around. Nevin did not impress but is raking in Tol; hope he gets another look soon. McKinstry and Maton have traditional splits, so that might save Schoop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Ibanez is definitely on borrowed time, if he was smart he'd pull a Deuce and get "injured" so he can go on the DL instead of the inevitable minor league demotion. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 LOL "pull a Deuce". Sounds ... messy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger2022 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Josh Jung is crushing it for the Rangers right now. Too bad the Tigers organization can't find guys like that in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 hours ago, tiger2022 said: Josh Jung is crushing it for the Rangers right now. Too bad the Tigers organization can't find guys like that in the draft. It will be interesting to see if draft fortunes change beginning with this upcoming draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Another article about chess. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) Our old friend Jose Iglesias opted out of his deal with the Padres and is now available. Yeah it's an empty BA but he hit .271 and .292 the past 2 seasons along with still having plus defense. I'd rather take an empty BA like that than the sub .200 we're getting from Scoop and Ibanez. Also he did play 2nd and 3rd in small samples in recent years so he should be able to play all along the diamond which gives us more versatility over them two. Edited May 26, 2023 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 (pre-emptive ducks) Niko Goodrum in SSS is hitting LHP well and drawing lots of walks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: (pre-emptive ducks) Niko Goodrum in SSS is hitting LHP well and drawing lots of walks Looks like he's found his level! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said: Our old friend Jose Iglesias opted out of his deal with the Padres and is now available. Yeah it's an empty BA but he hit .271 and .292 the past 2 seasons along with still having plus defense. I'd rather take an empty BA like that than the sub .200 we're getting from Scoop and Ibanez. Also he did play 2nd and 3rd in small samples in recent years so he should be able to play all along the diamond which gives us more versatility over them two. He's an empty batting average, although he appears to still have plus-D. I don't know, he seems to have more past than future. I suppose you could put him out there in place of Ibanez. Just don't be surprised if he does exactly as well. I'm guessing the Tigers don't act on this. I wouldn't think they would want to do musical roster because of the sense of chaos that would project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 No and No thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I'd rather reward Nevin for playing well at Toledo even though I suspect he can't do much here. More than Ibanez though, probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 20 hours ago, Jim Cowan said: I'd rather reward Nevin for playing well at Toledo even though I suspect he can't do much here. More than Ibanez though, probably. I think we’ve learned that when it comes to guys like Nevin and Ibanez, the jump from AAA to the bigs is huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Short and McKinstry are the leading Tigers' hitters by OPS. HAHAHAHAHA!!! (I actually think that's pretty cool so I'm laughing with the Tigers as much as I am at them...) But... Damn... when is Greene going to make a bid for top dog on this team...? He needs to keep putting up May-ish numbers is the short answer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: Short and McKinstry are the leading Tigers' hitters by OPS. HAHAHAHAHA!!! (I actually think that's pretty cool so I'm laughing with the Tigers as much as I am at them...) But... Damn... when is Greene going to make a bid for top dog on this team...? He needs to keep putting up May-ish numbers is the short answer... I think more power is coming, along with improved walk rates. I’m also a lot more optimistic about Tork than I was two months ago. He’s capable of .240/20/75, which would be solid development from last year. Of course, would be depressing if that ended up being his ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 I don’t think .240/20/75 will be TORK!’s ceiling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Ceiling usually means what someone is potentially capable of doing rather than what they actually do. By most accounts, Torkelson's cein\ling is higher than .240/20/75. Whether he actually reaches his ceiling, of course, remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Ceiling usually means what someone is potentially capable of doing rather than what they actually do. By most accounts, Torkelson's cein\ling is higher than .240/20/75. Whether he actually reaches his ceiling, of course, remains to be seen. His improvement since last season is striking - the only thing I'm hoping for right now it that he gets a little more aggressive early in the count. I love that his walks rate is climbing but IMO he's reached the point were what he doesn't swing at is as much what he needs to improve on. By which I mean he's allowing too many pitchers to steal strike one with with a cookie FB. It's fine to make a pitcher work, but if a hittable pitch is going to be sitting there - getting on base and extending innings is just as stressful for a pitcher as taking a couple of additional pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobrob2004 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: His improvement since last season is striking - the only thing I'm hoping for right now it that he gets a little more aggressive early in the count. I love that his walks rate is climbing but IMO he's reached the point were what he doesn't swing at is as much what he needs to improve on. By which I mean he's allowing too many pitchers to steal strike one with with a cookie FB. It's fine to make a pitcher work, but if a hittable pitch is going to be sitting there - getting on base and extending innings is just as stressful for a pitcher as taking a couple of additional pitches. Are the Tigers too patient? Don't get me wrong, walks are great, but Maton, Rogers, and Schoop also have above average walk rates and are not hitting very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, bobrob2004 said: Are the Tigers too patient? Don't get me wrong, walks are great, but Maton, Rogers, and Schoop also have above average walk rates and are not hitting very well. I don't think they are as a general rule, but Tork is a special case of a guy who can hit the ball really hard with regularity, and IMO guys like that should never take a middle middle fastball no matter what the count because they are the guys that can put those pitches over the fence. Cabrera (when he was good) was the model. Miguel loved to jump a guy trying to throw strike one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottwood Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I think if Cabrera rarely swung the bat and just tried to get walks then that would be a major improvement. He does have a 16.7% walk rate in May, so that has been one positive sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Ceiling usually means what someone is potentially capable of doing rather than what they actually do. By most accounts, Torkelson's cein\ling is higher than .240/20/75. Whether he actually reaches his ceiling, of course, remains to be seen. Assuming he does not become chronically injured, I believe he will reach .240/20/75 more than once before it is all over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, bobrob2004 said: Are the Tigers too patient? Don't get me wrong, walks are great, but Maton, Rogers, and Schoop also have above average walk rates and are not hitting very well. Meaning the team is too patient in general? I don’t believe so. Here are key Tigers hitting results by month so far (from FanGraphs): For context, the Tigers’ walk rate in March/April ranked 22nd in baseball; in May as of this morning, it ranks sixth. As we can see, walk rate is up and strikeout rate is also down, so they are “controlling the strike zone” much more effectively this month. On base is up with the walk rate, of course, and ISO is also up substantially, with homers ticking up by +35% per game. Stolen bases and baserunning runs are roughly the same—not much difference there. Otherwise, two things jump out at me: AVG and SLG are both up despite the drop in BABIP. That’s one result of putting the ball in play more by striking out less. This is also resulting in more homers. Runs per game are up by more than a full run per game. I think increased walk rate had something to do with all this. By taking more pitches and not chasing outside the zone, it’s forcing pitchers to come into the zone to try to get outs. They can’t rely on Tiger hitters getting themselves out at the plate as much. They have to hope our guys get themselves out by hitting the ball to fielders. That is happening more—at the expense of allowing the Tigers to score more runs. This looks like exactly like the Harris plan showing signs of coming to fruition. Imagine how good this offense could be if we had actual talented hitters. Edited May 28, 2023 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Assuming he does not become chronically injured, I believe he will reach .240/20/75 more than once before it is all over. I believe he will too. He needs to do so if he is going to have a career as a regular first baseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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