Tiger337 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, casimir said: Was this before Deuce was around? Definitely, otherwise he could have just called the Deuce and he would have taken care of the situation professionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tigermojo Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Hinch is giggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: Who is this Codify guy that doesn't understand L R L R L batting orders? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Its like they have the pitcher batting 5th. And that .611 in the leadoff spot sticks out, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 5 hours ago, casimir said: Its like they have the pitcher batting 5th. And that .611 in the leadoff spot sticks out, too. will take a few years, but hopefully Max Clark can solve the leadoff black hole we've had for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 40 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: will take a few years, but hopefully Max Clark can solve the leadoff black hole we've had for a long time. Go get someone in the meantime. How about Ha-Seong Kim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Tigermojo said: Hinch is giggling. Because he still works for the Astros? Edited August 1, 2023 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 That was such an awesome moment and makes me sad to think about how much fun it was at Comerica Park during that run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) The Franklin Perez era has concluded. I don't know whether Beck is playing down Perez's part in the trade intentionally to shield his employer or what, but Perez was THE headliner of the return on that trade when it happened, not just a "part". Edited August 3, 2023 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, chasfh said: The Franklin Perez era has concluded. I don't know whether Beck is playing down Perez's part in the trade intentionally to shield his employer or what, but Perez was THE headliner of the return on that trade when it happened, not just a "part". For the purposes of the trade calculations I do, I closed the book on Perez when he was released the first time, even if that was procedural because you can't waive an injured player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 9 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said: I feel like Martinez never got as much appreciation as he deserved. The top Tigers in OPS+ in at at least 1,500 PA: Cobb 171 Greenberg 161 Heilmann 149 JD Martinez 147 Crawford 145 Cabrera 141 Cash 139 Tettleton 135 Cullenbine 135 Kaline 134 https://stathead.com/baseball/player-batting-season-finder.cgi?request=1&match=player_season_combined&order_by=b_onbase_plus_slugging_plus&ccomp[1]=gt&cstat[1]=b_onbase_plus_slugging_plus&ccomp[2]=gt&cval[2]=1500&cstat[2]=b_pa&team_id=DET&comp_id[]=AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Malloy is hitting again: I know Vierling played 3B the other day in Pittsburgh. I didn't pay much attention to how he fared there, I was multitasking with the game on. Yeah, I know, where are my priorities. Is there room for Malloy before September? He's been playing the corner outfields in Toledo. Can he do the same in Detroit and can Vierling get an extended look at 3B? Just kind of see what could be for next season? It becomes a bit of a juggling act with Vierling currently the backup CF to Greene, but maybe some of those duties can go to Baddoo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Tiger337 said: I feel like Martinez never got as much appreciation as he deserved. The top Tigers in OPS+ in at at least 1,500 PA: Cobb 171 Greenberg 161 Heilmann 149 JD Martinez 147 Crawford 145 Cabrera 141 Cash 139 Tettleton 135 Cullenbine 135 Kaline 134 https://stathead.com/baseball/player-batting-season-finder.cgi?request=1&match=player_season_combined&order_by=b_onbase_plus_slugging_plus&ccomp[1]=gt&cstat[1]=b_onbase_plus_slugging_plus&ccomp[2]=gt&cval[2]=1500&cstat[2]=b_pa&team_id=DET&comp_id[]=AL Yeah I always thought he was too and this backs it up, I think it may have been because the way he was acquired and the little fan fair that came with it and most importantly he was viewed as kinda the third guy behind Miggy and Victor who for the most part were still elite hitters during JD's time up until the last season. Edited August 4, 2023 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 hour ago, casimir said: Malloy is hitting again: I know Vierling played 3B the other day in Pittsburgh. I didn't pay much attention to how he fared there, I was multitasking with the game on. Yeah, I know, where are my priorities. Is there room for Malloy before September? He's been playing the corner outfields in Toledo. Can he do the same in Detroit and can Vierling get an extended look at 3B? Just kind of see what could be for next season? It becomes a bit of a juggling act with Vierling currently the backup CF to Greene, but maybe some of those duties can go to Baddoo? .714 at home, and .990 on the road. That's weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 The other thing you notice is his negative platoon split. He doesn't need to be platooned. But he will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 48 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said: .714 at home, and .990 on the road. That's weird. That's the Deuce effect. Hair of the dog doesn't help out hand eye coordination all that well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Jim Cowan said: The other thing you notice is his negative platoon split. He doesn't need to be platooned. But he will be. he and Meadows both. That often goes away at MLB because the average slider quality is so much better but it's still a better starting point for promotion than a bad split is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 4 hours ago, Jim Cowan said: The other thing you notice is his negative platoon split. He doesn't need to be platooned. But he will be. I believe it's just a fluke as he had a normal split last year. However, righties don't typically have as much trouble with same handed pitchers as lefties do, so I don't know that he'll need to be platooned. I think the question with him will be whether he hits enough to compensate for his lack of fielding skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: However, righties don't typically have as much trouble with same handed pitchers as lefties do, A righty that is not a strictly pull hitter is probably your best bet for a player with no platoon split. I know, he's not a fair comparison to anyone - but Cabrera, with the ability to use an inside out swing when he wants to, has a negative career platoon split. More down to earth - Torkelson's is pretty moderate so far in his young career, and he also knows how to take the outside pitch to right when they are throwing him away. He really should do it more than he does. I think this is also a place where you want to look at OBP as well as OPS - at least for LHH. I wouldn't care too much if a LHH gives up his power going the other way against LHP in order to avoid making outs. That's not a guy I'm going to worry about platooning even if his OPS split might be >150 because no HRs. Can he still keep the line moving? Riley is an example here. 130pts on his OPS split but less than 20 on his OBP. (because Riley hasn't hit a HR off a LHP this season) Edited August 4, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Soft tossing southpaw with a feast of famine statcast summary: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: feast of famine This is better than prospect hounds. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) Turnbull with a so-so outing at Toledo 3.1 IP, 3H 2ER 2BB 2K. He left the game after hitting a batter with 1 out in the 4th and that man came around to score, so 1 ER while he was on the mound. Edited August 5, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 certainly appears as though Austin's career is over https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/38139341/tigers-austin-meadows-having-rough-s-anxiety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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