CMRivdogs Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Shinzaki said: IIRC....in the 70's the Tigers had a minor league pitching coach that taught everyone to throw a change up with an unusual grip....maybe that contributed to the arm issues that Rozema Fidrych and Morris all had Roger Craig was a big proponent of the split finger fastball. He was the Tigers' pitching coach in the 80s (under Sparky). He managed the SF Giants after his time in Detroit Edited September 23, 2023 by CMRivdogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I.did a little.research..it was Johny Grodzicki...pushed the change up with a...i think...unique grip. Lot of shoulder issues with guys in the Tigers system in the !md to late 70's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Shinzaki said: I.did a little.research..it was Johny Grodzicki...pushed the change up with a...i think...unique grip. Lot of shoulder issues with guys in the Tigers system in the !md to late 70's LOL - shoulder issues would almost be a welcome respite from the current elbow wastage rate.....🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 17 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: I didn't mean that. I meant having 5 regular starter going 5-6 innings, with a couple of long guys instead of ONLY 1-inning guys, and using those long guys every time there's a 5-inning start, or an extra's game, or even in a rotation/ 6-inning game like I had it to save wear and tear on the 1-inning guys, etc... No, I didn't interpret that from you. The LaRussa thing (3 Ps going 3 IP each) was a bit of an extreme on the theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Dang...I"d forgotten how good Lolich was in the early 70's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 This is the seventh consecutive losing for the Tigers. Ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Shinzaki said: Dang...I"d forgotten how good Lolich was in the early 70's I didn't remember how much he came from the side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 https://blogs.fangraphs.com/tarik-skubal-is-pitching-like-an-ace/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Tigers game is sold out for Sunday with the exception of a handful of SRO tickets. Weather is supposed to be perfect, should be a fun time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 22 hours ago, MIguy said: Tigers game is sold out for Sunday with the exception of a handful of SRO tickets. Weather is supposed to be perfect, should be a fun time. I’m going with my son. I saw Miggy’s 3,000th hit, his last HR (so far) and looking forward to his last game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: I’m going with my son. I saw Miggy’s 3,000th hit, his last HR (so far) and looking forward to his last game. Maybe the KC pitcher will groove him a fastball and have the catcher let him know it's coming? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: Maybe the KC pitcher will groove him a fastball and have the catcher let him know it's coming? Like Denny and the Mick. And the best part of that sequence will always be Pepitone, coming up next, showing McLain where he wanted it, and McLain throwing it right at his head. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 I think it's cool that the Lions play on Thursday instead of Sunday this week so Miggys last game can be the focal point of the Detroit fan and news coverage that day. I guess it still might be an afterthought but I think if the Lions were playing it probably would get alot less attention by everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said: I think it's cool that the Lions play on Thursday instead of Sunday this week so Miggys last game can be the focal point of the Detroit fan and news coverage that day. I guess it still might be an afterthought but I think if the Lions were playing it probably would get alot less attention by everybody. and it would be an absolute zoo down there with sellouts at both stadiums. I recall game 3 of the ALDS in 2014 was during a Lions home game but the Tigers were down 0-2 already in the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, oblong said: and it would be an absolute zoo down there with sellouts at both stadiums. I recall game 3 of the ALDS in 2014 was during a Lions home game but the Tigers were down 0-2 already in the series. Yes, we did both of those games and it was a bit of a madhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 2 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: I think it's cool that the Lions play on Thursday instead of Sunday this week so Miggys last game can be the focal point of the Detroit fan and news coverage that day. I guess it still might be an afterthought but I think if the Lions were playing it probably would get alot less attention by everybody. Totally agree. I’m just glad I don’t have to make a choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 On 9/27/2023 at 5:38 AM, RandyMarsh said: I think it's cool that the Lions play on Thursday instead of Sunday this week so Miggys last game can be the focal point of the Detroit fan and news coverage that day. I guess it still might be an afterthought but I think if the Lions were playing it probably would get alot less attention by everybody. I doubt the NFL had that in mind when they put the schedule together, but it definitely works out for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 I wonder how long they wait till they put up his statue? I don't necessarily want them to do it next year but I hope it's not one of those things like the Lions with Barry where they wait almost 25 years to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: I wonder how long they wait till they put up his statue? I don't necessarily want them to do it next year but I hope it's not one of those things like the Lions with Barry where they wait almost 25 years to do it. I’ll bet they time it to his HOF induction year, which I believe will be 2028. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 This, along with the substantial changes in management and coaching, might be the kind of data point that could pique the interest of a halfway decent free agent, if that’s the direction Scott wants to go in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holygoat Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Tenacious D said: I’ll bet they time it to his HOF induction year, which I believe will be 2028. Miggy will get his statue, his number retired and his name on the wall soon after he's inducted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 2 hours ago, chasfh said: This, along with the substantial changes in management and coaching, might be the kind of data point that could pique the interest of a halfway decent free agent, if that’s the direction Scott wants to go in. Please stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 On the ballot after the 2028 season, inducted in 2029. That assumes first ballot, which... I'm not 100% sold on. There's a lot more voters who hold things like domestic violence and drunk driving against players these days, and that number is only going to go up in the next five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 3 hours ago, chasfh said: This, along with the substantial changes in management and coaching, might be the kind of data point that could pique the interest of a halfway decent free agent, if that’s the direction Scott wants to go in. 74-74 excluding all the games against tough opponents at the beginning of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 They are also roughly 20 games under .500 if you neglect their best 11 game stretch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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