chasfh Posted August 13, 2023 Posted August 13, 2023 48 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: It wasn't as much Vest as I thought Wingenter would be the 1st man off the boat just because they only have 2 left handers. But I was forgetting they had picked up Vasquez. Shreveport failed in his mission to pitch well enough to get flipped, and now unfortunately it cost him his job. Quote
Toddwert Posted August 13, 2023 Posted August 13, 2023 ⚾️ Immaculate Grid 133 9/9: Rarity: 92 IMMACULATE! 🟩🟩🟩 🟩🟩🟩 🟩🟩🟩 Play at: https://immaculategrid.com @immaculategrid x @baseball_ref Quote
Tigermojo Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 https://blogs.fangraphs.com/teacherman-taught-kerry-carpenter-is-schooling-pitchers-in-motown/ Middling-at-best ouch Quote
gehringer_2 Posted August 17, 2023 Posted August 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/teacherman-taught-kerry-carpenter-is-schooling-pitchers-in-motown/ Middling-at-best ouch you are what your record says you are. Quote
LongLiveMaroth Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 Nice breakdown of Tork by Maybin. 1 Quote
Tigermojo Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/08/tigers-sign-carson-kelly-designate-eric-haase.html Put this here since the game thread will get moved. Sad to see Haase go but he just couldn't turn things around. Kelly looks better defensively. $3.5 million option next year plus incentives. Quote
Tigermojo Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 I won't be shocked when Rogers is traded in the offseason. Especially since he was rumored to be in the Erod trade. Rogers will hit arbitration for the first time. I don't know if he would get more than $3.5 million, I assume he will get less. So why pay Kelly more to be a backup? My guess is Kelly and Sands in Detroit next year with Dingler at AAA. Quote
Toddwert Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 36 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: I won't be shocked when Rogers is traded in the offseason. Especially since he was rumored to be in the Erod trade. Rogers will hit arbitration for the first time. I don't know if he would get more than $3.5 million, I assume he will get less. So why pay Kelly more to be a backup? My guess is Kelly and Sands in Detroit next year with Dingler at AAA. You might be right but i dont understand why you would want to get rid of Rogers 1 1 Quote
Hongbit Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 36 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: I won't be shocked when Rogers is traded in the offseason. Especially since he was rumored to be in the Erod trade. Rogers will hit arbitration for the first time. I don't know if he would get more than $3.5 million, I assume he will get less. So why pay Kelly more to be a backup? My guess is Kelly and Sands in Detroit next year with Dingler at AAA. It depends on how much of the Cabrera money they spend in free agency. I personally don’t think they make a giant splash and have plenty of extra money in 2024. Quote
Tiger337 Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 On 8/17/2023 at 3:52 PM, Tigermojo said: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/teacherman-taught-kerry-carpenter-is-schooling-pitchers-in-motown/ Middling-at-best ouch That sounds right to me. middling=moderate or average in size, amount, or rank. Quote
Timmitch55 Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Hongbit said: It depends on how much of the Cabrera money they spend in free agency. I personally don’t think they make a giant splash and have plenty of extra money in 2024. Who would we even have interest in, in the next free agent class? I don't see much. More coming with trades than FA in my opinion. Quote
chasfh Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 Not sure what the Carson Kelly move is about, exactly, if not shuffling the deck chairs until Dillon Dingler or someone we don’t know about yet arrives sometime next season or 2025. It’s pretty clear Haase is toast but he couldn’t be optioned, so they had to DFA him to clear active roster space. Kelly has no more future here than anyone else, even Rogers, so I don’t see them pushing out Jake in favor of Kelly for the 2024 season. Tigers might want to see whether they can squeeze a year of 2021-level performance out of Kelly before they move onto to the next catchers phase. Quote
Tenacious D Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Timmitch55 said: Who would we even have interest in, in the next free agent class? I don't see much. More coming with trades than FA in my opinion. If the Tigers retain Eduardo, which I don’t think is far-fetched, I could see us revisiting trade talks with the Dodgers, but with Skubal instead. They’d have to have some confidence that Mize and Turnbull will be in the mix next season. A cost-controlled Skubal would have more value to a team like the Dodgers and net a bigger return. Clearly they have a strong farm and willingness to trade to fix their pitching staff, which relies on a lot of question marks. I would love to know who we were receiving in return for ERod and Jake, if he was in fact part of it. Quote
RatkoVarda Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 K% is not everything, but Rogers and Dingler probably strike out too much for Harris's liking, so Kelly and Sands may very well be the 2024 duo. Seems to me the best duo is Kelly/Rogers (if healthy they could get you up to 4+ WAR), but if Rogers' value has peaked, then Harris probably is shipping him out. They are not going to have 4 catchers on the 40, so either they risk losing Dingler in Rule 5 draft, release Sands, or trade Rogers. Quote
Tenacious D Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 Think we lose a home game next season. Worth it. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: K% is not everything, but Rogers and Dingler probably strike out too much for Harris's liking, so Kelly and Sands may very well be the 2024 duo. Seems to me the best duo is Kelly/Rogers (if healthy they could get you up to 4+ WAR), but if Rogers' value has peaked, then Harris probably is shipping him out. They are not going to have 4 catchers on the 40, so either they risk losing Dingler in Rule 5 draft, release Sands, or trade Rogers. If Harris brings Sands to Detroit for any kind of regular role he will prove he is no smarter than Avila. Edited August 20, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote
Tiger337 Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 I assume Meadows will be playing regularly, at least platooning versus right handers. There is no sense bringing him up for a part time role. Quote
Jim Cowan Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: If Harris brings Sands to Detroit for any kind of regular role he will prove he is no smarter than Avila. Donny you are way out of your element. 1 Quote
oblong Posted August 21, 2023 Author Posted August 21, 2023 https://x.com/cmccosky/status/1693339706728051111?s=46&t=rTECiCzi2O-lytdgFWVzfg this seems fanboy-ish. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Jim Cowan said: Donny you are way out of your element. LOL - 25 yrs and the references still work. Quote
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