2023 Detroit Tigers Regular Season Discussion Thread

[CMRivdogs]

5 hours ago, Shinzaki said:

IIRC....in the 70's the Tigers had a minor league pitching coach that taught everyone to throw a change up with an unusual grip....maybe that contributed to the arm issues that Rozema Fidrych and Morris all had

Roger Craig was a big proponent of the split finger fastball. He was the Tigers' pitching coach in the 80s (under Sparky). He managed the SF Giants after his time in Detroit

Edited September 23, 2023 by CMRivdogs

[Shinzaki]

I.did a little.research..it was Johny Grodzicki...pushed the change up with a...i think...unique grip.  Lot of shoulder issues with guys in the Tigers system in the !md to late 70's

[gehringer_2]

1 minute ago, Shinzaki said:

I.did a little.research..it was Johny Grodzicki...pushed the change up with a...i think...unique grip.  Lot of shoulder issues with guys in the Tigers system in the !md to late 70's

LOL - shoulder issues would almost be a welcome respite from the current elbow wastage rate.....🤷‍♂️

[casimir]

17 hours ago, 1984Echoes said:

I didn't mean that. I meant having 5 regular starter going 5-6 innings, with a couple of long guys instead of ONLY 1-inning guys, and using those long guys every time there's a 5-inning start, or an extra's game, or even in a rotation/ 6-inning game like I had it to save wear and tear on the 1-inning guys, etc...

No, I didn't interpret that from you.  The LaRussa thing (3 Ps going 3 IP each) was a bit of an extreme on the theory.

[Shinzaki]

 

 

Dang...I"d forgotten how good Lolich was in the early 70's

[1776]

This is the seventh consecutive losing for the Tigers. Ridiculous. 

[gehringer_2]

3 hours ago, Shinzaki said:

 

 

Dang...I"d forgotten how good Lolich was in the early 70's

I didn't remember how much he came from the side.

[Tigermojo]

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/tarik-skubal-is-pitching-like-an-ace/

[MIguy]

Tigers game is sold out for Sunday with the exception of a handful of SRO tickets.  Weather is supposed to be perfect, should be a fun time.  

[Tenacious D]

22 hours ago, MIguy said:

Tigers game is sold out for Sunday with the exception of a handful of SRO tickets.  Weather is supposed to be perfect, should be a fun time.  

I’m going with my son.  I saw Miggy’s 3,000th hit, his last HR (so far) and looking forward to his last game.

[Sports_Freak]

6 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

I’m going with my son.  I saw Miggy’s 3,000th hit, his last HR (so far) and looking forward to his last game.

Maybe the KC pitcher will groove him a fastball and have the catcher let him know it's coming?

[Jim Cowan]

2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said:

Maybe the KC pitcher will groove him a fastball and have the catcher let him know it's coming?

Like Denny and the Mick.  And the best part of that sequence will always be Pepitone, coming up next, showing McLain where he wanted it, and McLain throwing it right at his head.

[RandyMarsh]

I think it's cool that the Lions play on Thursday instead of Sunday this week so Miggys last game can be the focal point of the Detroit fan and news coverage that day.

I guess it still might be an afterthought but I think if the Lions were playing it probably would get alot less attention by everybody. 

 

[oblong]

1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said:

I think it's cool that the Lions play on Thursday instead of Sunday this week so Miggys last game can be the focal point of the Detroit fan and news coverage that day.

I guess it still might be an afterthought but I think if the Lions were playing it probably would get alot less attention by everybody. 

 

and it would be an absolute zoo down there with sellouts at both stadiums. I recall game 3 of the ALDS in 2014 was during a Lions home game but the Tigers were down 0-2 already in the series. 

[Tenacious D]

31 minutes ago, oblong said:

and it would be an absolute zoo down there with sellouts at both stadiums. I recall game 3 of the ALDS in 2014 was during a Lions home game but the Tigers were down 0-2 already in the series. 

Yes, we did both of those games and it was a bit of a madhouse.

[Tenacious D]

2 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

I think it's cool that the Lions play on Thursday instead of Sunday this week so Miggys last game can be the focal point of the Detroit fan and news coverage that day.

I guess it still might be an afterthought but I think if the Lions were playing it probably would get alot less attention by everybody. 

 

Totally agree. I’m just glad I don’t have to make a choice.

[mtutiger]

On 9/27/2023 at 5:38 AM, RandyMarsh said:

I think it's cool that the Lions play on Thursday instead of Sunday this week so Miggys last game can be the focal point of the Detroit fan and news coverage that day.

I guess it still might be an afterthought but I think if the Lions were playing it probably would get alot less attention by everybody. 

 

I doubt the NFL had that in mind when they put the schedule together, but it definitely works out for sure.

[RandyMarsh]

I wonder how long they wait till they put up his statue? I don't necessarily want them to do it next year but I hope it's not one of those things like the Lions with Barry where they wait almost 25 years to do it. 

[Tenacious D]

3 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

I wonder how long they wait till they put up his statue? I don't necessarily want them to do it next year but I hope it's not one of those things like the Lions with Barry where they wait almost 25 years to do it. 

I’ll bet they time it to his HOF induction year, which I believe will be 2028.

[chasfh]

This, along with the substantial changes in management and coaching, might be the kind of data point that could pique the interest of a halfway decent free agent, if that’s the direction Scott wants to go in. 

 

[holygoat]

3 hours ago, Tenacious D said:

I’ll bet they time it to his HOF induction year, which I believe will be 2028.

Miggy will get his statue, his number retired and his name on the wall soon after he's inducted.

[Tenacious D]

2 hours ago, chasfh said:

This, along with the substantial changes in management and coaching, might be the kind of data point that could pique the interest of a halfway decent free agent, if that’s the direction Scott wants to go in. 

 

Please stop it.

[Edman85]

On the ballot after the 2028 season, inducted in 2029. That assumes first ballot, which... I'm not 100% sold on. There's a lot more voters who hold things like domestic violence and drunk driving against players these days, and that number is only going to go up in the next five years.

[Tiger337]

3 hours ago, chasfh said:

This, along with the substantial changes in management and coaching, might be the kind of data point that could pique the interest of a halfway decent free agent, if that’s the direction Scott wants to go in. 

 

74-74 excluding all the games against tough opponents at the beginning of the season.  

[Edman85]

They are also roughly 20 games under .500 if you neglect their best 11 game stretch.