RandyMarsh Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 Its only an one incident with just me but a guy I work with today asked me if I was going to Opening Day and I told him I haven't been down there for that in several years and he's like "Either have I but it's Miggy's last opener so I figured Id go down cause of that." He's not quite a casual fan but not a diehard either so I wonder how many fans like him have the same mindset. Quote
chasfh Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Jim Cowan said: Harris spent his time cleaning dead wood out of the bench and the bullpen, the scouting organization, and the training staff. He did not trade for a major league bat because he has SFA to offer in exchange. I think that his offseason was a B plus. And Harris couldn’t sign a decent big league bat because this entire organization is SFA at this moment. Haniger had a choice of where to go, and he went to a team that has at least a prayer of contending. Also, not for nothing, the Giants is Haniger’s hometown team, and he said that it was always his dream to play for them. So, there’s that. Quote
1984Echoes Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, buddha said: youre gonna be bitching about this all season, arent you? Only once he starts going to shit... Then I'll pipe up... (speaking only from my pov...). Quote
mtutiger Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 Just now, chasfh said: Also, not for nothing, the Giants is Haniger’s hometown team, and he said that it was always his dream to play for them. So, there’s that. Don't know whether the Tigers were in on Brandon Drury, but he said after he signed that he signed for less with the Angels because he's from the West Coast and wanted to stay out there. It's not like going to the store and buying a loaf of bread, for sure. Quote
Tenacious D Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 Any Miggy appeal for impacting attendance will be recognized on his special day and the last home game of the season, assuming they are different. Otherwise, his appeal will be limited, IMO. And he’s my AAT. Quote
chasfh Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, kdog said: Pudge, Magglio, and Prince were all good deals. We suckered Texas into taking Prince and got Kinsler to lengthen our contending window. Agree, free agent deals we signed twenty years ago were pretty good. Quote
alex Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 1 hour ago, casimir said: Schoop? He's not versatile. It's questionable if he is tradeable. Heck, maybe this is the trade? DFA Schoop to claim Florial. Or DFA a RP. Does anyone know how DFA works? A team puts in a claim? or is the claim based on last years standings, ex the team with the worst pecking record puts in first claim has to work out a deal - and if not then the player is waived or would any team have a chance for a deal straight up and NYY choose which deal? IMHO, some team(s) more than likely would put in a claim for this player (EFlorial). ... not entirely sure how it works. Quote
casimir Posted April 3, 2023 Author Posted April 3, 2023 26 minutes ago, buddha said: youre gonna be bitching about this all season, arent you? You can put me on ignore if you want to. I don’t care. Quote
casimir Posted April 3, 2023 Author Posted April 3, 2023 43 minutes ago, chasfh said: All I was saying is that this is the time for Hinch to move all his players in and out of roles to see who is capable of what under which circumstances. It’s about what I believe Hinch is trying to accomplish, not about what I personally want Hinch to do, or about whether I think any of this matters. That’s exactly what the organization should be doing on the field. Figuring out who can do what. Essentially this is an extended spring training for 2024. Why not? Quote
chasfh Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, alex said: Does anyone know how DFA works? A team puts in a claim? or is the claim based on last years standings, ex the team with the worst pecking record puts in first claim has to work out a deal - and if not then the player is waived or would any team have a chance for a deal straight up and NYY choose which deal? IMHO, some team(s) more than likely would put in a claim for this player (EFlorial). ... not entirely sure how it works. DFA is a way to get a guy off your 40 but still keep him in the system by sending him to the minors. To DFA a guy, I believe the team must post him to waivers, and I believe it’s irrevocable in that if another organization claims him, we can’t pull him back. He’s gone. I think claims go worst-to-first record in your own league, then worst-to-first in the other league. If he clears waivers, the team can assign him to wherever in the system they want, and the player can either accept the assignment, or pull out of the contract and declare himself a free agent. (Not 100% sure of that last one? But that would be the fair thing to do.) Edited April 3, 2023 by chasfh Quote
alex Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, chasfh said: DFA is a way to get a guy off your 40 but still keep him in the system by sending him to the minors. To DFA a guy, I believe the team must post him to waivers, and I believe it’s irrevocable in that if another organization claims him, we can’t pull him back. He’s gone. I think claims go worst-to-first record in your own league, then worst-to-first in the other league. If he clears waivers, the team can assign him to wherever in the system they want, and the player can either accept the assignment, or pull out of the contract and declare himself a free agent. (Not 100% sure of that last one? But that would be the fair thing to do.) Thanks for the data! So, it would seem the first month of the season it goes by the standings of last year, (If I remember correctly) as the worst to first as you said . Then once May 1st is upon us it would go in accordance with the current season standings. (note: I may need to be corrected here)... If the above holds (based on last years standings for the month of April) - that means two teams, Oakland and KC would get first dibs, then Detroit and so forth. We may be looking at several waiver claims through the season. I do feel EFlorial may be one of the more interesting players (not that it means that much but he was a top 100 MLB Pipeline for a couple years as well). Quote
gehringer_2 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, chasfh said: All I was saying is that this is the time for Hinch to move all his players in and out of roles to see who is capable of what under which circumstances. It’s about what I believe Hinch is trying to accomplish, not about what I personally want Hinch to do, or about whether I think any of this matters. yeah - I get that as a general proposition, but after the bad starts the last couple of years the team's mentality, let alone its marketing, is in a pretty weak position to survive giving up games early in the season trying to find out what they've got. Maybe if you have a guy with options and you want to teach him a new position you send him to AAA for month? Edited April 3, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, chasfh said: DFA is a way to get a guy off your 40 but still keep him in the system by sending him to the minors. To DFA a guy, I believe the team must post him to waivers, and I believe it’s irrevocable in that if another organization claims him, we can’t pull him back. He’s gone. I think claims go worst-to-first record in your own league, then worst-to-first in the other league. If he clears waivers, the team can assign him to wherever in the system they want, and the player can either accept the assignment, or pull out of the contract and declare himself a free agent. (Not 100% sure of that last one? But that would be the fair thing to do.) Right - If you DFA a player, the waiver is irrevocable, but they could put a player on revocable waivers at any time to guage interest before deciding to chance a DFA that get's a guy to AAA. Of course teams can sand-bag each other on waiver claims as well, but those are the options. Whether a play has to accept an assignment can depend on service time rules/options etc. Edited April 3, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote
buddha Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 1 hour ago, casimir said: You can put me on ignore if you want to. I don’t care. liar. you would miss me. 😀 Quote
casimir Posted April 3, 2023 Author Posted April 3, 2023 40 minutes ago, buddha said: liar. you would miss me. 😀 Not really, I would still have your constant bitching about Killian Hayes in the Pistons’ forum to look forward to.😆 Just do me a favor if you do put me on ignore. Continue with the standard protocol that others have developed and make a scene over putting someone on ignore. Nothing is more ironic than creating attention over putting someone on ignore. It’s one of my favorite head scratchers. Quote
buddha Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 1 hour ago, casimir said: Not really, I would still have your constant bitching about Killian Hayes in the Pistons’ forum to look forward to.😆 Just do me a favor if you do put me on ignore. Continue with the standard protocol that others have developed and make a scene over putting someone on ignore. Nothing is more ironic than creating attention over putting someone on ignore. It’s one of my favorite head scratchers. god dammit! that's it! im putting you on ignore! (how was that?) Quote
casimir Posted April 3, 2023 Author Posted April 3, 2023 4 hours ago, buddha said: god dammit! that's it! im putting you on ignore! (how was that?) Not bad. The usage of exclamation marks and some cursing add some much needed tone. If you could add a gif of a cat using an ignore button, that’d really be a nice touch that I don’t think has been used yet. Quote
mtutiger Posted April 3, 2023 Posted April 3, 2023 The Rays lucked out, Tigers and Nats back 2 back lol Quote
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