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04/03/2023 8:10pm EDT Detroit Tigers vs Houston Astros


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Just now, roarintiger1 said:

Gotta question taking Boyd out here.   Let the guy work through this.  He was pitching well.

I thought he struggled with his control tonight but he was just getting into a groove right before the Tigers extended inning at the plate.  I think that hurt him.  I agree with you though...Boyd should have been kept in.  

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Just now, Hart said:

I thought he struggled with his control tonight but he was just getting into a groove right before the Tigers extended inning at the plate.  I think that hurt him.  I agree with you though...Boyd should have been kept in.  

I don’t know.  He did walk the 8th place hitter Dubon to lead off the inning, did he not?  

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Just now, casimir said:

I don’t know.  He did walk the 8th place hitter Dubon to lead off the inning, did he not?  

Yeah.  His control was lacking but he battled thru it with a tough lineup.  It's hindsight at this point but Boyd at 70 something pitches vs our bullpen seems like an easy decision.  

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Regarding Boyd, he was skipped last time through the rotation in spring for extra rest. I don't have pitch data or anything, but possible he was out of gas. Coming back from injury and pitching in relief last year, the leash is likely short for a while.

Regarding Cisnero, I don't get what they see in him.

Regarding LHP vs. Yordan, ask Robbie Ray how that went last October.

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5 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I don't know how much choice he had after he couldn't sign Chafin

You don’t respond to an unfortunate incident with a bad response.  Cisnero is a near 5.0 BB9 and 1.50 WHIP.  Pass.

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It's amazing what good defense can do for you.  We saw it with Tampa against us and then we saw it in that inning with Vierling and Maton having a huge effect in opposite directions.  

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3 minutes ago, casimir said:

You don’t respond to an unfortunate incident with a bad response.  Cisnero is a neat 5.0 BB9 and 1.50 WHIP.  Pass.

no doubt. OTOH, each of the guys sent down had the chance to beat Jose out of his spot and didn't.

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1 minute ago, Edman85 said:

Regarding Boyd, he was skipped last time through the rotation in spring for extra rest. I don't have pitch data or anything, but possible he was out of gas. Coming back from injury and pitching in relief last year, the leash is likely short for a while.

Regarding Cisnero, I don't get what they see in him.

Regarding LHP vs. Yordan, ask Robbie Ray how that went last October.

I kind of question how the Tigers handled Boyd at the end of Spring Training.  I am sure he got work in the background but he went a long time without facing live game action after the Tigers cancelled his last start.  

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4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

no doubt. OTOH, each of the guys sent down had the chance to beat Jose out of his spot and didn't.

Oh, I don’t know.  Didn’t Miguel Diaz have a helluva spring?  I swear I remember one of the later cuts had a SO9 of 18 without allowing a runner.  Now, granted, I’m not not sure who he was pitching to, it could have been AA fodder.

Cisnero had a nice 30 innings in 2020.  Appreciate the effort, but time to walk away.

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1 minute ago, casimir said:

Oh, I don’t know.  Didn’t Miguel Diaz have a helluva spring?  I swear I remember one of the later cuts had a SO9 of 18 without allowing a runner.  Now, granted, I’m not not sure who he was pitching to, it could have been AA fodder.

Cisnero had a nice 30 innings in 2020.  Appreciate the effort, but time to walk away.

Yeah. Cisnero got the vet treatment... he was always breaking camp with this team

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