RandyMarsh Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Deleterious said: This puts a smile on my face despite it being an early morning at work after a long weekend. Quote
Deleterious Posted May 30, 2023 Author Posted May 30, 2023 Always a good morning if the Celtics/Lakers/Bulls lost the night before. 2 Quote
Deleterious Posted May 30, 2023 Author Posted May 30, 2023 Tatum shot 24% from three for the series. Brown was even worse at 16%. Jaylen Brown is about to get $300M and he couldn't dribble through a couple of seventh graders without turning it over. 1 Quote
buddha Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, Deleterious said: Tatum shot 24% from three for the series. Brown was even worse at 16%. Jaylen Brown is about to get $300M and he couldn't dribble through a couple of seventh graders without turning it over. would you trade for jaylen brown? Quote
Deleterious Posted May 30, 2023 Author Posted May 30, 2023 38 minutes ago, buddha said: would you trade for jaylen brown? Sure but I wouldn't pay what I would have a year or two ago. His handle has been exposed for the second year in a row in the playoffs. Disappointing he couldn't step up when Tatum tweaked his ankle. Not someone you want to run an offense through. In his defense. The Celtics offense has been garbage the last two seasons. Heavy isolation without any movement. Basically hand the ball to Tatum and Brown and see what they can do. They desperately need a pure PG to run their offense and take the pressure off of Tatum and Brown. Think about how much Tatum and Brown have the ball. Combined they only average 8 assists per game which is crazy low. And they average 6 TO's per game. So its pretty ugly basketball. Quote
Betrayer Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Deleterious said: Sure but I wouldn't pay what I would have a year or two ago. His handle has been exposed for the second year in a row in the playoffs. Disappointing he couldn't step up when Tatum tweaked his ankle. Not someone you want to run an offense through. In his defense. The Celtics offense has been garbage the last two seasons. Heavy isolation without any movement. Basically hand the ball to Tatum and Brown and see what they can do. They desperately need a pure PG to run their offense and take the pressure off of Tatum and Brown. Think about how much Tatum and Brown have the ball. Combined they only average 8 assists per game which is crazy low. And they average 6 TO's per game. So its pretty ugly basketball. This 100%. If nothing else, this series should demonstrate the importance of good coaching. One team was coached well, moved the ball, played defense, and played together. The other side just tried to toss a couple stars out there and win it on sheer talent alone. Quote
Shinzaki Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 It's nice to see the importance of coaching reinforced...interesting that Miami and Denver (other than Nikola) don't have a collection of stars like the teams that are going/went home. Similarly...in the NHL the finals don't involve McDavid, Matthews, Crosby or Ovechkin. Gives me hope that Cade, Ivey, Duren and whomever we get at 5 will be enough for a good coach to build a winner around 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 I'm of the opinion that having a collection of stars, especially in the NBA, makes you uncoachable. Look at the Brooklyn debacle. Nash wasn't running the show there. Quote
RandyMarsh Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 You also have to give credit to both teams front offices for finding either cast off players that they knew could fit with them and their schemes(reminds me of the going to work Pistons) and drafting or signing udfas that they thought they could potentially mold or get use out of. In Miami's case it seems like instead of going after young players with high upsides like most teams do they went after older college players who may not have the raw athleticism or upside but are mature, smart and can fit a particular role. 1 Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said: You also have to give credit to both teams front offices for finding either cast off players that they knew could fit with them and their schemes(reminds me of the going to work Pistons) and drafting or signing udfas that they thought they could potentially mold or get use out of. In Miami's case it seems like instead of going after young players with high upsides like most teams do they went after older college players who may not have the raw athleticism or upside but are mature, smart and can fit a particular role. So the Pistons should draft Hunter Dickenson and watch him blossom? Quote
Motown Bombers Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: So the Pistons should draft Hunter Dickenson and watch him blossom? They need to develop Cade into a superstar who can't get his team out of the 1st round. Then they need to let him leave in a sign and trade for an undersized center who can't score to save his life but can rebound and block shots. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted May 30, 2023 Posted May 30, 2023 3 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: n Miami's case it seems like instead of going after young players with high upsides like most teams do they went after older college players who may not have the raw athleticism or upside but are mature, smart and can fit a particular role. The spirit of John Beilein finds a place in the NBA without him.... Quote
RandyMarsh Posted June 6, 2023 Posted June 6, 2023 The TV ratings for Game 1 and 2 are virtually identical to last years that featured the Warriors and Celtics so despite not having the sexiest of matchups in terms of franchise cache it hasn't effected ratings thus far. 1 Quote
RandyMarsh Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 Jokic just makes it look so easy. It's like he is sleepwalking out there then you look at the number and he has like 20 and 10 early in the 3rd. As a team the Nuggets are just so good at moving without the ball and cutting and with Jokic and others they always seem to get the ball to those guys in the right spot. Quote
Deleterious Posted June 8, 2023 Author Posted June 8, 2023 You are a lot more willing to move and cut knowing your star has no problem giving it up to you. Quote
NYLion Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 On 5/30/2023 at 1:53 PM, Shinzaki said: It's nice to see the importance of coaching reinforced...interesting that Miami and Denver (other than Nikola) don't have a collection of stars like the teams that are going/went home. Similarly...in the NHL the finals don't involve McDavid, Matthews, Crosby or Ovechkin. Gives me hope that Cade, Ivey, Duren and whomever we get at 5 will be enough for a good coach to build a winner around Denver is pretty star laden even outside of Jokic. Murray is a star, Porter is one of the best #3 options in the league, Gordon high level role player, all guys with high draft pedigree. They're just as talented, if not more, than Boston but they play much better as a TEAM because they have the ultimate "make everybody better" guy in Jokic. Malone is an excellent coach but that team is as talented as any in the league. The NBA, compared to the other sports, is a star driven league and always will be. If Cade doesn't turn out to be a superstar or at least a top 10-15 player in the league, the Pistons will more than likely never win a Championship. Teams like the '04 Pistons are an extreme exception. It doesn't mean that coaching doesn't play a role of course but it's less important than other sports IMO. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, NYLion said: Denver is pretty star laden even outside of Jokic. Murray is a star, Porter is one of the best #3 options in the league, Gordon high level role player, all guys with high draft pedigree. Yup. 5 guys started 60 games for the Nuggets. All drafted in the 1st 15, except Jokic. 🤔 Quote
Shinzaki Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Yup. 5 guys started 60 games for the Nuggets. All drafted in the 1st 15, except Jokic. 🤔 Killian was drafted in the top ten...so draft position isn't much to go on. I may have put too much distance between LeBron/Reeves/Davis/Russell and Jokic/Murray et al...but I still think there's more talent on the Laker roster Edited June 9, 2023 by Shinzaki Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Shinzaki said: Killian was drafted in the top ten...so draft position isn't much to go on. was drafted by the *Pistons* in the top ten. That's your difference. I think the Nuggets show two things - it helps not spend your picks on players like Johnson and Killian , but also that 19 is often too young to get much of a handle on what the guys in the 7 foot class are going to turn into. Edited June 9, 2023 by gehringer_2 1 Quote
RandyMarsh Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 Come next year we may feature a lineup that has all top 5 picks with Cade, Ivey, Bagley, Wiseman and the 5th pick this year. And yes it will probably still be terrible. 1 Quote
buddha Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 the refs understood the mission tonight. theyre doing their best for miami. Quote
buddha Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 bruce brown, kcp, and reggie jackson are going to win an nba championship together. kcp with multiple rings. where's trey burke? lol. Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.