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6 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

Trump will overturn it Monday and the Chinese will sell it to Musk by the end of the week

 

I was listening to NPR and if it were to be banned folks are moving over to another chinese owned Rednote. Once it reaches a million users it would be heading down the same avenue as TikTok and classified as a "Foreign Adversary". It is all smoke and mirrors in the end.

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/15/nx-s1-5260742/tiktok-china-rednote-xiaohongshu-app

 

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I have tiktok and don't use it that often.  My doom scrolling is mostly reels.  When I opened it the other day I was kind of freaked out that the first thing they showed me was my friend promoting his band's show at the Token Lounge.    

 

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There's legitimate reasons to not want China controlling social media algorithms, end of story. A real IYKYK situation, and the people that know the most are the ones who pushed the hardest for this.

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2 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

There's legitimate reasons to not want China controlling social media algorithms, end of story. A real IYKYK situation, and the people that know the most are the ones who pushed the hardest for this.

100%.  No doubt. 

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15 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

There's legitimate reasons to not want China controlling social media algorithms, end of story. A real IYKYK situation, and the people that know the most are the ones who pushed the hardest for this.

I would add the fact that Trump used to agree but, due to millions of dollars from Jeff Yass, had a "change of heart" objectively seems.... kinda fishy.

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16 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

There's legitimate reasons to not want China controlling social media algorithms, end of story. A real IYKYK situation, and the people that know the most are the ones who pushed the hardest for this.

I get that and agree. So what happens if say China "sells" the app and algorithms to  someone like Musk, who wants it and is a de facto member of the incoming administration. Are there any guardrails in the legislation to prevent them from using our "right to free speech" against us? Big Brother is out there on both sides. I guess we just need to pick our own poison 
 

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22 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

There's legitimate reasons to not want China controlling social media algorithms, end of story. A real IYKYK situation, and the people that know the most are the ones who pushed the hardest for this.

Damn right

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1 minute ago, CMRivdogs said:

I get that and agree. So what happens if say China "sells" the app and algorithms to  someone like Musk, who wants it and is a de facto member of the incoming administration. Are there any guardrails in the legislation to prevent them from using our "right to free speech" against us? Big Brother is out there on both sides. I guess we just need to pick our own poison 
 

The Tik Tok model exists elsewhere.  Doesn’t make elsewhere any less egregious.  The PRC has weaponized Tik Tok and is using it to influence and to collect very very valuable data. 

 

 

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Just now, romad1 said:

The Tik Tok model exists elsewhere.  Doesn’t make elsewhere any less egregious.  The PRC has weaponized Tik Tok and is using it to influence and to collect very very valuable data. 

 

 

It's a bit like whack a mole. 

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Allowing Tik Tok to continue in the United States in current configuration is like giving the Japanese spies at Pearl Harbor in 1941 radios because the Japanese Government stroked FDR's ego really hard, maybe gave him substantial cash concessions and that he was in the White House in the first place because of the LOLZ. 

Those spies might have told Yamamoto to wait a day until the Enterprise had returned. 

Remains to be seen if the United States can survive a thugocracy for another 4 years

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1 hour ago, romad1 said:

Remains to be seen if the United States can survive a thugocracy for another 4 years

My intent for those four years, or at least the first two, is to just bury my head in the sand as much as possible for a bulk of it and protect my sanity. Maybe midterms impose some much needed guardrails if we haven't already careened off a cliff at that point.

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1 hour ago, Edman85 said:

My intent for those four years, or at least the first two, is to just bury my head in the sand as much as possible for a bulk of it and protect my sanity. Maybe midterms impose some much needed guardrails if we haven't already careened off a cliff at that point.

Ditto.  My plan as such is to do as much good as possible where it can be done and not violate the oaths we've taken because we are responsible for our own honor and can't help it if the system is rewarding the worst violators of those oaths.  I was planning to return to Michigan when the wife retires from federal service in a couple years.  So, we shall see.

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2 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Ditto.  My plan as such is to do as much good as possible where it can be done and not violate the oaths we've taken because we are responsible for our own honor and can't help it if the system is rewarding the worst violators of those oaths.  I was planning to return to Michigan when the wife retires from federal service in a couple years.  So, we shall see.

This scene has resonated with me since November

 

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