Motown Bombers Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, buddha said: of course! like how kennedy was a scheming conniver who only retired because trump promised to elevate his former clerk kavanaugh, but breyer is an honest selfless public servant who retired and - oh what a coincidence - his former clerk was elevated to his position. You forgot about the part of Kennedy's son helping secure a $600 million loan for Donald Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Just now, Motown Bombers said: You forgot about the part of Kennedy's son helping secure a $600 million loan for Donald Trump. all to get that rapist named a justice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 42 minutes ago, buddha said: of course! like how kennedy was a scheming conniver who only retired because trump promised to elevate his former clerk kavanaugh, but breyer is an honest selfless public servant who retired and - oh what a coincidence - his former clerk was elevated to his position. well, I just read a take on Marbury v Madison that argued that John Marshall connived to get the case to the court and likely suborned his brother's perjury to make sure the case went forward. Enough clay feet to go around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 7 hours ago, buddha said: yes, but supreme court justices should not be making public comments about potential elected officials whose decisions they will need to rule upon. That is probably true. I am just biased because I think he's an obvious fraud and am frustrated that so many can't see it. Thus, I tend to defend anyone who calls him out for what he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, buddha said: of course! like how kennedy was a scheming conniver who only retired because trump promised to elevate his former clerk kavanaugh, but breyer is an honest selfless public servant who retired and - oh what a coincidence - his former clerk was elevated to his position. One the scale of issues with a JOTSC, retirement choices are pretty small potatoes on any side. For all we know Kennedy tried to cut such a deal because he was worried about Trump nominating someone crazier. But the fact is that the sitting Judge has no leverage. POTUS can walk away from any kind of understanding once a retirement is announced and the existing judge can't do squat - can't even go public without looking like.....a conniver! So it's a bit of red herring to argue that a retiring judge was very responsible for anything more than his own retirement. Edited April 11, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 24 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: That is probably true. I am just biased because I think he's an obvious fraud and am frustrated that so many can't see it. Thus, I tend to defend anyone who calls him out for what he is. why do you think he's a fraud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Just now, buddha said: why do you think he's a fraud? Jeez, Lee's already written one book, you expect him to write another here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, buddha said: why do you think he's a fraud? Is this a serious question? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 17 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Is this a serious question? yeah, i want to know why Lee thinks he's a fraud. i already know why you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Just now, buddha said: yeah, i want to know why Lee thinks he's a fraud. i already know why you do. I mean, it's a fact not opinion. Start with Trump University that was literally shut down for defrauding people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Now we await for Buddha to both sides it. What Democrat started a fraudulent university? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 1 hour ago, buddha said: yeah, i want to know why Lee thinks he's a fraud. i already know why you do. I don't think he is at all what he claims to be or what his followers think he is. He is not a brilliant businessman and is certainly not self made. He has failed at almost every business that wasn't started and funded by his father. He is not a brilliant negotiator. He just bullies people and buries people with lawsuits. He is not a patriot and couldn't care less about the country other than what it can do for him. He is not a tough guy. He never had to fight for anything in his life. Leaders of other countries don't fear or respect him. They think he's a joke. He doesn't care about working class people or veterans or any of the people he pretends to care about. I mean he cares even less than most politicians do. He does not care at all. He is not a Christian. In fact, he seems to have no morals nor values at all. Everything in life is a transaction. If it's good for Donald Trump then it's right. He has no Republican ideals or really any ideals. He is just a populist demagogue who could just as easily have decided to be a Democrat if the opportunity was there. He knows very little about any of the policy issues or the constitution or how our government is supposed to work and he doesn't even try to know. All he is is a bullshit artist and self promoter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I don't think he is at all what he claims to be or what his followers think he is. He is not a brilliant businessman and is certainly not self made. He has failed at almost every business that wasn't started and funded by his father. He is not a brilliant negotiator. He just bullies people and buries people with lawsuits. He is not a patriot and couldn't care less about the country other than what it can do for him. He is not a tough guy. He never had to fight for anything in his life. Leaders of other countries don't fear or respect him. They think he's a joke. He doesn't care about working class people or veterans or any of the people he pretends to care about. I mean he cares even less than most politicians do. He does not care at all. He is not a Christian. In fact, he seems to have no morals nor values at all. Everything in life is a transaction. If it's good for Donald Trump then it's right. He has no Republican ideals or really any ideals. He is just a populist demagogue who could just as easily have decided to be a Democrat if the opportunity was there. He knows very little about any of the policy issues or the constitution or how our government is supposed to work and he doesn't even try to know. All he is is a bullshit artist and self promoter. i thought you were talking about thomas. i know trump is a fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Tiger337 said: I don't think he is at all what he claims to be or what his followers think he is. He is not a brilliant businessman and is certainly not self made. He has failed at almost every business that wasn't started and funded by his father. He is not a brilliant negotiator. He just bullies people and buries people with lawsuits. He is not a patriot and couldn't care less about the country other than what it can do for him. He is not a tough guy. He never had to fight for anything in his life. Leaders of other countries don't fear or respect him. They think he's a joke. He doesn't care about working class people or veterans or any of the people he pretends to care about. I mean he cares even less than most politicians do. He does not care at all. He is not a Christian. In fact, he seems to have no morals nor values at all. Everything in life is a transaction. If it's good for Donald Trump then it's right. He has no Republican ideals or really any ideals. He is just a populist demagogue who could just as easily have decided to be a Democrat if the opportunity was there. He knows very little about any of the policy issues or the constitution or how our government is supposed to work and he doesn't even try to know. All he is is a bullshit artist and self promoter. I know you're talking about Trump but it also doesnt say much for the current administration since the country and world were much better off before 1/20/21. Things sure have gone to hell since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Personally I’m better off now than what I was 1/19/20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, Archie said: I know you're talking about Trump but it also doesnt say much for the current administration since the country and world were much better off before 1/20/21. Things sure have gone to hell since then. I am personally better off now. Anyway, it's silly to say that the country is worse off now, since the last year of Trump's presidency was the worst year we've had as a country in my lifetime. And any problems we have now would have been made worse by Trump. It's been addition by subtraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 9 hours ago, buddha said: i thought you were talking about thomas. i know trump is a fraud. Oh crap, you made me type all that for nothing!😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Guy burns house down New guy comes in to clean up "House was better when the old guy was here" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted April 11, 2022 Author Share Posted April 11, 2022 59 minutes ago, Archie said: I know you're talking about Trump but it also doesnt say much for the current administration since the country and world were much better off before 1/20/21. Things sure have gone to hell since then. if you're not better off it's your own fault. Bootstraps and whatnot and whathasits. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 12 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: I mean, it's a fact not opinion. Start with Trump University that was literally shut down for defrauding people. Aside from what Lee and MB already posted... His "charity" was already shut down because it committed fraud. Trump had to pay restitution. He also had to repay Trump University students for defrauding them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 10 hours ago, buddha said: i thought you were talking about thomas. i know trump is a fraud. OIC. Still trying to catch up in these threads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Archie said: I know you're talking about Trump but it also doesnt say much for the current administration since the country and world were much better off before 1/20/21. Things sure have gone to hell since then. Myself and pretty much everyone I know are way better off than the darkness that was 2020. No thanks to going back to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 the people who are not better off are those who listened to republicans about HCQ, Ivermectin, Vaccine resistence, covid deniel, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Aside from what Lee and MB already posted... His "charity" was already shut down because it committed fraud. Trump had to pay restitution. He also had to repay Trump University students for defrauding them. 15 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: OIC. Still trying to catch up in these threads... It never hurts to re-hash Trump's fraud because I completely forgot about the sham charity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 1 minute ago, oblong said: the people who are not better off are those who listened to republicans about HCQ, Ivermectin, Vaccine resistence, covid deniel, etc. Without getting too personal how are you better off? I've noticed the higher prices of everything. Fortunately we can afford it but theres a lot of people who can't. I went to the grocery store yesterday and 2 full paper bags cost $106. Gas fill up on my truck was $80. That a lot more than we've ever paid. I looked at flights to florida and they were over $700 each and that was double a year ago. Thats just personal costs and not talking about borders, foriegn relations, women's rights issues or the state of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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