Mr.TaterSalad Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 6:31 PM, mtutiger said: At least until someone challenges one of the states who legalize it, anyway. Expand Right, Alito and company know what this will lead to. All the legal wrangling in the world won't change that. As MB said, Roe was the first step. When Republicans get control of the House, Senate, and Presidency again someday, possibly as soon as 2024, I have no doubt they will bring about legislation that will enact a nationwide ban. Mr. State's Rights Samuel Alito will suddenly and likely have forgotten by that time that he cares so much about state's rights. Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 6:15 PM, chasfh said: Chicago Will Be A ‘Haven’ For People Who Need Abortion If Roe V. Wade Is Overturned, Mayor Lightfoot Says Get ready for police checkpoints at the state border—not the Illinois police to control who comes into the state, but the Indiana/Iowa/Wisconsin police who will control who leaves the state. "Hey, lady, what business do you have going to the 'abortion haven'? Oh, nothing in particular? Just visiting friends, you say? Turn around and go home, lady. You're not leaving this state on my watch." That'll have to do until they build The Wall. 😏 Expand During Covid my son and I were turned away from purchasing tickets to a Pistons game because my credit cards zip code was in Indiana. They told me only people from NW Ohio (Toledo zip code) and Western Ontario could purchase tickets. This is 1,000% a true story. 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 6:36 PM, Tigeraholic1 said: During Covid my son and I were turned away from purchasing tickets to a Pistons game because my credit cards zip code was in Indiana. They told me only people from NW Ohio (Toledo zip code) and Western Ontario could purchase tickets. This is 1,000% a true story. Expand Except for allowing people from Ohio to buy tickets, I'm fine with this. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 6:14 PM, buddha said: i think that's an overreaction. Expand So is taking abortion laws back to 1976. Not to mention the desire to turn back the clock on gay rights. While the so called Christian Taliban can't take women back that far, the never did approve the ERA either. So if you follow Alito's thinking, women's rights are not actually mentioned in the constitution as far as their work rights are concerned. And in many cases they still get second class treatment to men in corporate America. Quote
oblong Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 to be fair, despite my hyperbole, most people who consider themselves Pro Life don't think about this like we do here. I understand that. But someone has to. Too many people are legislating to try to control what they think is immoral behavior. Its more than that. 1 Quote
mtutiger Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 6:34 PM, gehringer_2 said: I have more the impression that the charge by Collins and Murkowski is that representations were made in their private interviews that were lies. Expand Exactly. Maybe it's all Kabuki theater, but it may still be accurate regardless that what fell out of their mouths of Collins / Murkowski didn't match what they ultimately did. Quote
mtutiger Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 6:35 PM, Mr.TaterSalad said: Right, Alito and company know what this will lead to. All the legal wrangling in the world won't change that. As MB said, Roe was the first step. When Republicans get control of the House, Senate, and Presidency again someday, possibly as soon as 2024, I have no doubt they will bring about legislation that will enact a nationwide ban. Mr. State's Rights Samuel Alito will suddenly and likely have forgotten by that time that he cares so much about state's rights. Expand Yeah, it's seems pretty obvious whether it's through court action or through federal action, the desire for "states rights" on abortion will end the moment that this ruling comes down. Quote
buddha Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 6:33 PM, chasfh said: This is a serious question. What do we do with all the additional babies and their mothers, especially the underage girls? Expand the us isnt producing enough children right now. an additional 750k per year would be welcome news to the future economy. Quote
buddha Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 6:44 PM, mtutiger said: Maybe it's all Kabuki theater Expand boom. Quote
1776 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 7:05 PM, romad1 said: starting to think Roberts is the leaker Expand I like that, go with it. Quote
mtutiger Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 7:10 PM, buddha said: boom. Expand I guess my view is the kabuki aspect is irrelevant if Kav et. al did in fact misrepresent their views on the issue. Quote
mtutiger Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 7:09 PM, Motown Bombers said: Expand IUD's illegal? That's pretty extreme. Quote
1776 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 Roberts leaks, checks public sentiment to determine majority opinion, votes in line with the majority seniment. That would be John Roberts Quote
Archie Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 5:40 PM, chasfh said: Yeah, why are we wasting our time talking about stupid shit like abortion when we could be talking about important things like men competing in women's sports? Where are our priorities? Expand I was making the point that when these politicians say they care about women they are hypocrites. It was an example of something they are doing to hurt women. Sometimes you folks here have a problem seeing the whole issue. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 7:05 PM, romad1 said: starting to think Roberts is the leaker Expand You know what he's saying............ Quote
gehringer_2 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) On 5/3/2022 at 7:09 PM, buddha said: the us isnt producing enough children right now. an additional 750k per year would be welcome news to the future economy. Expand What proportion do you suppose have to end up in prison before those economics come out negative? Edited May 3, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote
pfife Posted May 3, 2022 Author Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 7:24 PM, Archie said: I was making the point that when these politicians say they care about women they are hypocrites. It was an example of something they are doing to hurt women. Sometimes you folks here have a problem seeing the whole issue. Expand crushin it Quote
Archie Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 7:05 PM, romad1 said: starting to think Roberts is the leaker Expand Maybe they want people to think there's a leak. We don't know if its true but we're taking their word for it. Who knows, maybe this was planned. If it was a leak my money would be on Sotomayor or the new lady. If this turns out to be true and Roe is overturned, both of them will be very unhappy. Quote
buddha Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 7:29 PM, gehringer_2 said: What proportion do you suppose have to end up in prison before those economics come out negative? Expand do you think we need more people in america? the entire developed world is having a baby shortage. we'll either need more immigration or more kids. preferably both. Quote
mtutiger Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 7:29 PM, gehringer_2 said: What proportion do you suppose have to end up in prison before those economics come out negative? Expand It would be nice to think that a decrease in access to abortion and birth control could be coupled with more resources for families in order accommodate those births, but frankly, this country does a pretty terrible job of doing that with families as it is. I know that point grates like sandpaper for a lot of folks, but it doesn't make it any less true. Quote
buddha Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 if someone leaked it, its probably a clerk. why would roberts leak the memo and then call for an fbi investigation? that doesnt make any sense. never a dull moment nowadays. Quote
pfife Posted May 3, 2022 Author Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 7:39 PM, Archie said: Maybe they want people to think there's a leak. We don't know if its true but we're taking their word for it. Who knows, maybe this was planned. If it was a leak my money would be on Sotomayor or the new lady. If this turns out to be true and Roe is overturned, both of them will be very unhappy. Expand Corney Barret? Quote
1776 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 7:50 PM, buddha said: if someone leaked it, its probably a clerk. why would roberts leak the memo and then call for an fbi investigation? that doesnt make any sense. Expand That’s what Roberts is counting on 😉 Quote
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