SCOTUS and whatnot

[Tiger337]

14 minutes ago, chasfh said:

I think just about everybody accepts by now that the Supreme Court is has been deeply corrupted and delegitimatized

I wasn't sure about this, but I looked it up and only 27% of Americans have confidence in the Supreme Court.  That's even worse than Biden and Dump. 

Of course, if everybody distrusts them that much, that means there is a large group of people that thinks they are corrupt for different reasons than you think.

Personally, I think the way they appoint Supreme Court Justices is pretty stupid and it was destined for corruption.  

 

Edited March 5, 2024 by Tiger337

[pfife]

Today the Supreme Court of the Federalist Society will hear arguments and then disregard them, and then decide 250 years of people reading the text of the constitution just didn't see that president's are immune because reasons

Audio will be live on CSpan.   If she is arguing today, Solicitor General Prelogar is very impressive.

[pfife]

Some observations:

1) Apparently Trump is going to argue that "ensuring election integrity" was part of his official presidential duties, and he shouldn't be prosecuted for carrying out his official presidential duties.   Problem is, ensuring election integrity is a STATE matter, STATES administer elections, not the Federal Government and certainly not the President.

2) The SCOTFS and SCOTUS historically have been aggressive in seizing power in relation to the other branches of government, main example being when the court granted itself powers not in the constitution to strike down laws passed by legislatures.   Would the SCOTFS *really* give the President the authority to flout the SCOTFS if they so desired?

[chasfh]

25 minutes ago, pfife said:

2) The SCOTFS and SCOTUS historically have been aggressive in seizing power in relation to the other branches of government, main example being when the court granted itself powers not in the constitution to strike down laws passed by legislatures.   Would the SCOTFS *really* give the President the authority to flout the SCOTFS if they so desired?

This one is the key. I find it hard to believe that SCOTUS would Seal Team Six themselves in the service of Agent Orange.

[pfife]

Guest on C-SPAN just mentioned something I totally forgot, which is that Jack Smith asked the court to take this up way earlier.   

[smr-nj]

Re:the Supreme Court hearing currently happening in regards to presidential immunity….

Listening to D. John Sauer is hard on the ears. 

[Motown Bombers]

They realize Biden would have this same immunity right? 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[CMRivdogs]

 

[pfife]

13 minutes ago, smr-nj said:

Re:the Supreme Court hearing currently happening in regards to presidential immunity….

Listening to D. John Sauer is hard on the ears. 

Yeah he sounds like rfk jr

[pfife]

Ketanji is an absolute bad ass.  

[oblong]

I can't wait to see how Thomas votes though.

[pfife]

20 minutes ago, pfife said:

Ketanji is an absolute bad ass.  

truer by the minute, she's utterly eviscerating him right now. 

[pfife]

Jack Smiths guy talking about how they gave congress immunity via the speech and debate clause, but specifically did not do a form of immunity for the president, strongly suggesting framers didn't want it.

[pfife]

This doesn't seem like it's going well for either side.

[chasfh]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

They realize Biden would have this same immunity right? 

Yes, but they also know he would never abuse it to jail or murder opponents and such. That's the beauty part for them.

[chasfh]

48 minutes ago, pfife said:

truer by the minute, she's utterly eviscerating him right now. 

Uppity justices get whacked in Trumpworld.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[CMRivdogs]

He has a point...

 

[Motown Bombers]

Just a reminder this was Bernie Sanders press secretary.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[gehringer_2]

7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

you can't make it up.

[romad1]

Neal Katyal seems to think 5-4 for no absolute immunity.

[Motown Bombers]

5-4 is way too close. 

[romad1]

1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

5-4 is way too close. 

absolutely