Motown Bombers Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 9:04 PM, Sports_Freak said: Shelia let Quinn and Patricia lead the team last season. After 2020-2021, she replaced them. Expand Right but she didn't take over until after the draft and free agency and basically just before the preseason. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 9:06 PM, Motown Bombers said: Right but she didn't take over until after the draft and free agency and basically just before the preseason. Expand Yeah, in 2020. In 2021, she was in charge for the draft and free agency. So this is her 2nd season of being in charge. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 9:14 PM, Sports_Freak said: Yeah, in 2020. In 2021, she was in charge for the draft and free agency. So this is her 2nd season of being in charge. Expand The initial post was that she should have fired Quinn prior to the 2020 draft. She was not in charge at that time. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) On 10/17/2021 at 9:27 PM, Motown Bombers said: The initial post was that she should have fired Quinn prior to the 2020 draft. She was not in charge at that time. Expand I'll put it this way - If my name was going to be official on the papers 5 weeks after the draft, I'd damn well want the input into what was going to happen in that draft. So to me - official or not, it marks Sheila as probably not up to the job. That is based on the fact that most often, the paper work takes weeks - possibly months - to be complete after conditions on the ground have changed. Your YMMV may vary on that view. Edited October 17, 2021 by gehringer_2 Quote
Sports_Freak Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 9:27 PM, Motown Bombers said: The initial post was that she should have fired Quinn prior to the 2020 draft. She was not in charge at that time. Expand Yeah, you're correct. She took over in June of 2020. Too late to replace Patricia, even though she fired him before the season concluded. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 9:39 PM, gehringer_2 said: I'll put it this way - If my name was going to be official on the papers 5 weeks after the draft, I'd damn well want the input into what was going to happen in that draft. So to me - official or not, it marks Sheila as probably not up to the job. Expand Seems a little ridiculous to assume someone is not up to the job based on the timing of firing management before she had actual authority to do so and then assume everything done afterwards means nothing. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 9:42 PM, Motown Bombers said: Seems a little ridiculous to assume someone is not up to the job based on the timing of firing management before she had actual authority to do so and then assume everything done afterwards means nothing. Expand I'll stand by what I think Quote
Motown Bombers Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 9:43 PM, gehringer_2 said: I'll stand by what I think Expand and I'll stand by that I think what you think is ridiculous. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) On 10/17/2021 at 9:45 PM, Motown Bombers said: and I'll stand by that I think what you think is ridiculous. Expand that and $3 will get you a Vente. Edited October 17, 2021 by gehringer_2 Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 9:45 PM, Motown Bombers said: and I'll stand by that I think what you think is ridiculous. Expand This. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 I think the parties involved knew Sheila was taking over well before she took over. She certainly could have told her mom to make the move. That year is costing them right now. I don't think Patricia should have gotten a 2nd year, much less a 3rd. It was pretty clear the atmosphere was poisonous pretty early. Quote
sagnam Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 I saw Cam Newton got vaccinated. He’s washed up but would be infinitely better than David Blough if you’re set on making a change looking for a spark. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) On 10/17/2021 at 10:18 PM, Motor City Sonics said: I think the parties involved knew Sheila was taking over well before she took over. She certainly could have told her mom to make the move. That year is costing them right now. I don't think Patricia should have gotten a 2nd year, much less a 3rd. It was pretty clear the atmosphere was poisonous pretty early. Expand correct. If she had been doing what she needed to be doing to get up to speed to be an NFL owner while mom was grooming her to take over I would have expected QuinTricia to be gone long before mom handed over the keys to the executive washroom. She wasn't a new hire off the street. Edited October 17, 2021 by gehringer_2 1 Quote
Hongbit Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 Loved the effort today combined with the Jags win. This is setting up very nicely for the Lions. The most disappointing part of the weekend was Liberty losing to a 32 point underdog and Willis throwing 3 more Ints. That was more concerning to me than anything Goff did today. On the subject of Goff, he’s a total stiff and shame on anyone for thinking they were smarter at evaluating QB talent than Sean McVey. He knew exactly what he had and he passed his trash onto Holmes. Brad should’ve know better. The only thing Goff does well is cash paychecks and he’s all-pro at doing that. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 How exactly is 2020 costing them? Quote
Motown Bombers Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 10:43 PM, gehringer_2 said: Expand Except Tua was considered the top QB and it would have been more likely Tua was drafted. If they did draft a QB and trade Stafford, they would have gotten a lot worse return. There is also no way of assuming that Sheila firing Quinn would have led to the Lions drafting a QB most people had 2nd. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 10:39 PM, Hongbit said: Loved the effort today combined with the Jags win. This is setting up very nicely for the Lions. The most disappointing part of the weekend was Liberty losing to a 32 point underdog and Willis throwing 3 more Ints. That was more concerning to me than anything Goff did today. On the subject of Goff, he’s a total stiff and shame on anyone for thinking they were smarter at evaluating QB talent than Sean McVey. He knew exactly what he had and he passed his trash onto Holmes. Brad should’ve know better. The only thing Goff does well is cash paychecks and he’s all-pro at doing that. Expand Maybe they knew what he was and they took him anyway to get the deal with the picks. A football team with no talent doesn't have a lot of good options. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 10:46 PM, Motown Bombers said: Except Tua was considered the top QB and it would have been more likely Tua was drafted. If they did draft a QB and trade Stafford, they would have gotten a lot worse return. There is also no way of assuming that Sheila firing Quinn would have led to the Lions drafting a QB most people had 2nd. Expand They probably wouldn't have moved Stafford before the 2020 season anyway because of the killer cap hit. But they could have moved him in 2021 without having to play Goff. Quote
Hongbit Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 10:47 PM, gehringer_2 said: Maybe they knew what he was and they took him anyway to get the deal with the picks. A football team with no talent doesn't have a lot of good options. Expand They renegotiated him though which added $15m in dead cap if they cut him this off-season. I don’t think they do that unless they really had some thoughts that he could become their long term starter. I’m not sure this guy is even a good clipboard holding backup for a good team. This may be his last stop in the league. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 10:49 PM, gehringer_2 said: They probably wouldn't have moved Stafford before the 2020 season anyway because of the killer cap hit. But they could have moved him in 2021 without having to play Goff. Expand Then they don't get two first round picks. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 10:50 PM, Hongbit said: They renegotiated him though which added $15m in dead cap if they cut him this off-season. I don’t think they do that unless they really had some thoughts that he could become their long term starter. I’m not sure this guy is even a good clipboard holding backup for a good team. This may be his last stop in the league. Expand So you are saying we hired another FO that can't evaluate talent? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 10:50 PM, Motown Bombers said: Then they don't get two first round picks. Expand what is different about the Stafford trade in 2021 if a rookie is holding his clipboard in 2020 instead of Jeff Okudah getting torched each week? Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 10:46 PM, Motown Bombers said: Except Tua was considered the top QB and it would have been more likely Tua was drafted. If they did draft a QB and trade Stafford, they would have gotten a lot worse return. There is also no way of assuming that Sheila firing Quinn would have led to the Lions drafting a QB most people had 2nd. Expand If the Lions had taken Justin Herbert, they'd have broken him by now. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 10:52 PM, gehringer_2 said: So you are saying we hired another FO that can't evaluate talent? Expand I mean, both of their top executives have been involved in putting together Super Bowl rosters but if only they fired Quinn sooner. Quote
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