gehringer_2 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, slothfacekilla said: The Athletic released a ranking of Yzerman's trades so far and I was shocked to read this blurb: "entering Monday night’s games, Gagner’s 35 points as a Red Wing were actually one more than Athanasiou has posted since the trade. Athanasiou has since moved on to the Los Angeles Kings." I thought AA was doing decently after the trade but I guess I haven't been paying close attention... still, speed has a value beyond pts - especially to a team that skates as badly as the Wings, and AA had it and the current Wings need it. It was still a great trade, but I wouldn't necessarily agree that in the short term it isn't hurting just because Gagner has equalled AA points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: The Athletic released a ranking of Yzerman's trades so far and I was shocked to read this blurb: "entering Monday night’s games, Gagner’s 35 points as a Red Wing were actually one more than Athanasiou has posted since the trade. Athanasiou has since moved on to the Los Angeles Kings." I thought AA was doing decently after the trade but I guess I haven't been paying close attention... Surprising, but by my count games played since the trade are Gagner 101 AA 75 so that explains a bit. AA was hurt and has only played 19 games this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 50 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: still, speed has a value beyond pts - especially to a team that skates as badly as the Wings, and AA had it and the current Wings need it. It was still a great trade, but I wouldn't necessarily agree that in the short term it isn't hurting just because Gagner has equalled AA points. I see what you're saying but unless AA changed his playing style I never saw him as much of a contributor outside of his points. Just glancing at his zone starts last season AA is still highly protected by the Kings (third lowest d-zone starting percentage and the two players lower than him played significantly less minutes than him and got less offensive zone starts than AA) so I'm guessing it is more of the same from him. Gagner on the other hand has the highest percentage of defensive zone starts of any Detroit player this season including defensemen. Speed is nice but I don't agree with the idea that AA would change this roster at all just because he skates fast. 27 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Surprising, but by my count games played since the trade are Gagner 101 AA 75 so that explains a bit. AA was hurt and has only played 19 games this season. This makes a lot of sense, though Gagner is .34 ppg after the trade and AA is .45. So pretty similar especially with the roles that each player plays. They average about the same time on ice with AA seeing a minute and a half of power play time per game with the Kings. So there's that... I didn't mean for my comment to be this deep but I can't say I expected fans to ever long for AA's intangibles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: expected fans to ever long for AA's intangibles. well, TBH, it was his intangibles that were lacking, I would still like to have this speed though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 availability is also an ability, and AA was never available. and soft as a pillow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 As the anti-Russian fever spreads, is it possible that the NHL will say nyet to drafting anyone from Russia or Belarus this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Just now, Shinzaki said: As the anti-Russian fever spreads, is it possible that the NHL will say nyet to drafting anyone from Russia or Belarus this year? the red wings should issue an apology for having the Russian Five on their team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Back when Arthur Treacher's Fish and Chips was a thing they had a fried chicken sandwich with Russian dressing that was so good. Today...I'm ashamed to admit I enjoyed it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 AA is absolutely not an NHL center and not a quality top 6 player. When healthy though, he is a decent 3rd line wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 Link dumps! I pulled an autograph of this kid this weekend randomly so I hope he works out haha. Veleno back to Grand Rapids though I have to imagine they are potentially moving a D (Leddy?) or shutting down DDK. Even if Juolevi sucks I still like taking this chance a lot. Though quick reading up it seems like he had back and hip injuries that have really affected his skating/pivoting so if that isn't something he can regain then he's probably toast. HHe makes end to end rushes look like he's strolling in the park. Draper was in town to watch Frolunda, along with draft stuff I'm guessing they're starting to assess Elmer and Edvinsson for next season. Kronwall was there too, and they got a look at Niederbach. Looking good! Zito did NOT like that dude working him over wow. I kinda love it. Not that it changes too much the defenseman who started it and then got his ass kicked is Logan Mailloux... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: Though quick reading up it seems like he had back and hip i Missed stuff about the back. Never good for any athlete, let alone a hockey player.... Had Covid also - but again I didn't much about how badly. Edited March 7, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 DDK on waivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: DDK on waivers It's time to move on. Class move as maybe, just maybe, he catches on as a depth/ 8th defenseman for a playoff team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: It's time to move on. Class move as maybe, just maybe, he catches on as a depth/ 8th defenseman for a playoff team... too bad, he seemed to be playing better at the end of last season but it doesn't seem to be there anymore. Edited March 7, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: It's time to move on. Class move as maybe, just maybe, he catches on as a depth/ 8th defenseman for a playoff team... he was terrible here playing with seider, no one is going to pick him up outside of EDMONTON! come on kenny...do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 DDK cleared waivers of course, I think Detroit put him on IR. Seems kind of weird to put him on waivers before (maybe it was to see if he could get on a team to play him and he's just on IR with hurt feelings?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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slothfacekilla Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 https://www.nhl.com/redwings/news/cross-hanas-signs-entry-level-contract/c-331726274 Quote The Detroit Red Wings today signed right wing Cross Hanas to a three-year entry-level contract. Hanas, 20, has skated in 53 games for the Western Hockey League's Portland Winterhawks this season and ranks among the team leaders with 22 goals (4th), 48 assists (1st), 70 points (1st), six power-play goals (4th), a plus-24 rating (5th), 65 penalty minutes (2nd) and 179 shots on goal (5th). The 6-foot-1, 174-pound forward has appeared in 186 career games in four seasons with the Winterhawks, totaling 145 points (54-91-145), 167 penalty minutes and a plus-49 rating. While the 2020-21 WHL campaign was on hold, Hanas also skated in 27 games with the Lincoln Stars in the United States Hockey League, logging 16 points (3-13-16) and 99 penalty minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 23 hours ago, slothfacekilla said: Soderblom looks like an Agile Bear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 hertl signs an 8 year extension in san jose with an aav of over 8 million. so there goes that chance of getting a top center via free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 reports that bert is on the block. chiarot gets a number one pick. if a team trades for bert, it should be for an absolute haul. if not, keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, buddha said: reports that bert is on the block. chiarot gets a number one pick. if a team trades for bert, it should be for an absolute haul. if not, keep him. they need high picks. Berggren and Edvinsson may be ready for next year but there isn't enough top talent in the pipeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 Leddy is apparently sitting tonight to keep him healthy for a potential trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Big Questions at ESPN: Teams that will be more active than you think? Everyone knows the Panthers and Avs are going for it. ... But this question is about the unexpected, so I present to you the St. Louis Blues and Detroit Red Wings... And Detroit? A few people have told me to keep an eye on them, and there's a belief that anyone on the roster is in play outside Moritz Seider and Lucas Raymond (though I have a hard time seeing them part with captain Dylan Larkin, either). This text I received from an NHL executive should put the rest of the league on notice: "Steve Y is up to something." Dangerous words. That made me chuckle... Hopefully, Stevie Y lives up to that comment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 I don't know why but I expect the Wings to be quiet at the deadline. Looking like a real nice pick after some quiet nepotism claims tied to Draper. Maybe he knows what he's doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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