casimir Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Detroit Tigers vs St. Louis Cardinals Watch: Cardinals - Bally Sports Midwest, Tigers - Bally Sports Detroit Listen: Cardinals - KMOX 1120 AM/98.7 FM, Cardinals Radio Network, WIJR AM 880 (En Espanol), Tigers - 97.1 The Ticket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Turnbull optioned to Toledo to make room for Faedo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, kdog said: Turnbull optioned to Toledo to make room for Faedo. Wow. Is this just 40 man shenanigans or do they really think he needs to work on something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, kdog said: Turnbull optioned to Toledo to make room for Faedo. It's the right move but hopefully he can get some of his touch back in Toledo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Wow. Is this just 40 man shenanigans or do they really think he needs to work on something? The latter. Faedo was already on the 40 man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted May 7, 2023 Author Share Posted May 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said: It's the right move but hopefully he can get some of his touch back in Toledo Yeah. Maybe the move isn't made if they didn't have rotation/timing issues. And it isn't surprising to see some inconsistency in Turnbull's early return. Hopefully he takes it in stride, works on what he needs to, and he is a viable piece of the rotation before too long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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casimir Posted May 7, 2023 Author Share Posted May 7, 2023 It'd be nice to sweep. But this series is in hand. A 6th/7th/8th type SP is on the mound. Its a getaway game. The next series is in the Tigers' personal house of horrors in Cleveland. Hopefully today is competitive to keep that feeling going, Faedo can get into or through the 6th and the bullpen doesn't get too taxed. Don't look now, but the lineup has been picking up its end of the bargain to go along with the bullpen. Keep that going into Cleveland. Keep winning series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted May 7, 2023 Author Share Posted May 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: OK, so we see the same lineups. I guess its official then, eh? 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Copying my tweet here. Not saying this is the ONLY reason, but similar to Max and Porcello in 2010, this at least gives you an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Wow. Is this just 40 man shenanigans or do they really think he needs to work on something? If Turnbull stays in minors for about 2 months, he would no longer be a free agent heading into 2025; instead Tigers would control him for a 4th arbitration year. Not saying Harris is manipulating service time, but it could break that way. edit: old news Edited May 7, 2023 by RatkoVarda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 I don't think it's being done to manipulate service time. He has pitched poorly this year and it should be mutually beneficial for him to work things out in the minors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted May 7, 2023 Author Share Posted May 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I don't think it's being done to manipulate service time. He has pitched poorly this year and it should be mutually beneficial for him to work things out in the minors. Yup. I think the service time here is a coincidence rather than a driver. Another season of control might be a benefit. Looking out that far at the potential salary liabilities, if the timing of Turnbull’s last season is enough of a concern to stop the service clock, then this team has a bigger problem to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 I hope he was on board with this decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, casimir said: It'd be nice to sweep. But this series is in hand. A 6th/7th/8th type SP is on the mound. Its a getaway game. The next series is in the Tigers' personal house of horrors in Cleveland. Hopefully today is competitive to keep that feeling going, Faedo can get into or through the 6th and the bullpen doesn't get too taxed. Don't look now, but the lineup has been picking up its end of the bargain to go along with the bullpen. Keep that going into Cleveland. Keep winning series. To be fair, St Louis is rolling out a 6th/7th/8th type in Steven Matz today... or at least he's pitched that way so far lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Guys coming back from TJ always seem to have control issues. Their arm is different and all the spring training and mock games can't replicate a real game. Let him work it out and get a feel. I am guessing it's going to take at least 3 or 4 starts. Very similar to Fulmer, and it took him a whole season to work it out but he was pretty solid after that. I am thinking the Tigers kind of knew this coming into the season but hoped that by giving him more rest last year that he'd be ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Turnbull is 30 years old. If he is around after 2024 it’s probably a positive outcome. I’m taking more of a micro approach. The tigers rotation will offer plenty of chances for redemption in the next few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 I don't think a 30+ year old pitcher with a history of injuries is somebody whose service time you worry about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I don't think a 30+ year old pitcher with a history of injuries is somebody whose service time you worry about. what if you're a person who worries about EVERYTHING ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiger337 said: I don't think it's being done to manipulate service time. He has pitched poorly this year and it should be mutually beneficial for him to work things out in the minors. I think there is some aspect that plays into this from the other side - Faedo is pretty much completely rehabbed at this point. Giving Turnbull some additional 'rehab' time in Toledo dovetails with a chance to give Faedo what is probably close to a make or break MLB audition for him. The decision is probably 80% about Turnbull but when you can make a move that serves multiple objectives it all adds to the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 I really hate what's being done to A's fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Christian Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Faedo gives up a gopher ball in the first. 1-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Christian Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) Ibanez left on second. 1-0 to end the second. Edited May 7, 2023 by Dave Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtrain72 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Ooof, Haase with the noodle arm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtrain72 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Now thiiiis is our classic 2023 Tigers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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