Summer 2023 Off-Season Thread

[lordstanley]

Overdue. 

[Tigerbomb13]

 

Not great, Joe. Suspended five games by the IIHF. 

[lordstanley]

 

[slothfacekilla]

I think that is his second IIHF suspension oddly enough, I think he headbutted someone before?  I don't know what turns his brain into mush for international play because he doesn't do dirty stuff that I notice in the NHL.

[lordstanley]

Nice hit. 
 

 

[lordstanley]

This clip popped up on my Twitter feed. I will never forget this shift. 
 

 

[slothfacekilla]

That makes me want to dig my Helm jersey out of storage 😂

[lordstanley]

I don't see what the Leafs see in Brad Treliving. Not like he did that great with the cap and re-signing stars in Calgary.

[lordstanley]

Dubas to the Pens. 
 

 

[buddha]

shockingly, money wins out over "time with family"...

[slothfacekilla]

Maybe he's a long lost relative of Benjamin Franklin!

[buddha]

athletic latest mock has us taking dvorsky and zach benson in round one.

would you gamble on mitchkov if he falls to 9?

[Hongbit]

Not sure where to put this one.   
 

 

[lordstanley]

Doesn’t surprise me. Babcock did a lot of bad things, but the narrative for that week of his firing that he was uniquely evil among coaches of his era  is probably untrue. 

[lordstanley]

Has anyone checked on Mike Commodore, lol

[slothfacekilla]

On 6/3/2023 at 11:37 AM, lordstanley said:

Doesn’t surprise me. Babcock did a lot of bad things, but the narrative for that week of his firing that he was uniquely evil among coaches of his era  is probably untrue. 

I am surprised on one hand, but on the other hand the NHL is just an old boys' club that recycles the same coaches and GM's through all the vacancies no matter what.  Even outside of his actions being labeled beyond the pale by old school vets like Chris Chelios, the dude didn't have any real success in Toronto and the players in Detroit basically said they won their one cup with Mike in spite of him not because of him.  Detroit could never sign any real free agents because no one wanted to play under Babcock.  So I don't know why you bother with the public heat for an overrated coach, but it is the Blue Jackets (who also just acquired Provorov) so hopefully they just keep their same status as a nothing franchise under Babcock.

Edited June 6, 2023 by slothfacekilla

[buddha]

dubois puts in a trade request....again.  the only club that should trade for him is montreal.  speaking of which, if they dont want dubois, where does he go?  seems like he's painted himself into a corner.

also, what would you trade for debrincat?

[slothfacekilla]

PLD seems like such a high maintenance player.

 

I would do a similar deal to what Ottawa gave up to get him: 7th overall, 39th overall and a third round pick.  I have read that they're looking for a goalie and a package like the Eichel trade, so could maybe do something like first round pick, Cossa and a second round pick?  I'm not sure I'd want to give up Kasper since he's a center and I don't know if the Sens would ask for anyone else outside of Edvinsson, Wallinder and Mazur.  Maybe throw Mazur in there?  I just feel like it is going to be a lot.

[buddha]

1 hour ago, slothfacekilla said:

PLD seems like such a high maintenance player.

 

I would do a similar deal to what Ottawa gave up to get him: 7th overall, 39th overall and a third round pick.  I have read that they're looking for a goalie and a package like the Eichel trade, so could maybe do something like first round pick, Cossa and a second round pick?  I'm not sure I'd want to give up Kasper since he's a center and I don't know if the Sens would ask for anyone else outside of Edvinsson, Wallinder and Mazur.  Maybe throw Mazur in there?  I just feel like it is going to be a lot.

i wouldnt trade that much for debrincat.  i dont think there in a place where he moves the needle that much to give up all that.

i know they gave up a first and a second for him, but i would argue he's older, coming off a worse season, and is one year removed from being a ufa.  i think his value has decreased.

if youre the wings, what does signing him get you if you give up half the farm for him?  youre now the ottawa senators from this last season.  that's not much better than you were this season and youve given up half the farm to get there.

i'd start at #17 and #41.  the most i would do is #17 and the boston pick.  if ottawa doesnt want just picks, i might do cossa and #17.

i realize this probably wont get it done, but i would hate to see the wings give up their future just to finish in 6th rather than 7th.  unfortunately, i think this slog continues for at least one more year.

were going to have to be a 4 line team with no stars.  carolina west....or seattle east...

[buddha]

severson traded to columbus for a 3rd round pick.

then sogns for 8×6.25.  thats a lot of term for a 28 year old good defenseman.  i guess columbus' gm doesnt care because he'll be gone by the time he starts serious decline.

[Shinzaki]

I'm not keen on giving up Cossa..we sunk a 1st rd pick and a couple of years into developing the big galoot into a legit prospect at a position with little depth in our system.   Agree that DeBrincat is older and closer to being a UFA and he also saw a 34% decline in goals last year.  I could see giving them #17 and some of the jillion 2nds we have...really mixed on giving them 9...maybe 17, the Boston pick and Carter Gylander...he's a goalie

Edited June 9, 2023 by Shinzaki

[slothfacekilla]

DeBrincat is also only 25, has scored 40 goals twice and was on a 40 goal pace in the covid season.  His "bad" season last year would have put him second in goals on the Wings (he would have comfortably been second in points too).  He also had the lowest PDO of his career last season and second lowest shooting percentage.  His possession numbers were still really strong so I would be shocked if he suddenly was over the hill at age 25.  I would love for the Wings to find ways to add some scoring because they desperately need it and young scorers just aren't available usually.  The Wings would definitely need to get an extension in place prior to the trade.

Friedman seems to think that Detroit is a potential destination but my guess is that no one knows and media are just throwing out logical destinations.  It would be great if Detroit could add some scoring talent to the team somehow.

[buddha]

debrincat trade rumors are heating up.  that said, given yzerman's famous ability not to leak anything, i imagine its mostly pure speculation.

[buddha]

would you trade 9 and 17 for clayton keller?

[buddha]

trade proposal from the athletic today: debrincat to the wings for zadina and 17.

i would do that in a heartbeat if debrincat would sign a long term deal for less than larkin's.  8 for 8 maybe.