gehringer_2 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, jz68 said: All Debrincat should need to be successful is good line mates. If he's out there on a line with Larkin and Raymond, he should have all he needs to thrive. you also want one strong checking line that can hold up against the other team's top lines so you don't always have to waste Larkin and his line out there playing defense or killing penalties incurred by overmatched defenders. The thing is, I thought they would take a big step last year and it turned out to be baby steps at best. Plus it was disappointing to see how badly they collapsed after the deadline deals. They went into the off season with a much worse performing team than they started the season with, so they are having to build from a point worse than even last season's starting team. So I'm a little gun shy about predicting progress. Edited July 10, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 theyre going to need big steps up from raymond, seider and edvinsson to be a playoff team. the atlantic division is TOUGH. i expect them to be in the hunt. i expect them to be better than last year. i do not expect them to make it. i give them a 30-40% chance to make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) wrong thread Edited July 10, 2023 by CMRivdogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, buddha said: theyre going to need big steps up from raymond, seider and edvinsson to be a playoff team. the atlantic division is TOUGH. i expect them to be in the hunt. i expect them to be better than last year. i do not expect them to make it. i give them a 30-40% chance to make it. and we're not even talking about the goaltending, which ran hot and cold last season. That also has to be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Just now, gehringer_2 said: and we're not even talking about the goaltending, which ran hot and cold last season. That also has to be better. husso wore down last year. they cant go into another season where he plays that many games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I don't expect them in the playoffs because they're in a tough division, but they should be competing until the end for a wild card spot. I think it is likely the top 4 Atlantic teams stay the same, hopefully the Wings are number 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Zadina got 1 year, $1.1 million from San Jose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Last year’s team was relying on big numbers from Vrana and Bertuzzi if they were going to compete. They got something like 40 games between the two of them. Rasmussen got hurt, and they ended up playing a lot of mediocre hockey players. At the end of the year they just fell apart. Now they are solid up and down the roster, and there are kids with high ceilings who may fight their way into the lineup, or get called up if injuries become an issue. Their record may not be much better next year but they won’t have nights where they give up eight goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jz68 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 42 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: Zadina got 1 year, $1.1 million from San Jose. Everyone wishing him well and I'm just sitting here hoping he fails so it proves the Wings were right about him. Am I the bad guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, jz68 said: Everyone wishing him well and I'm just sitting here hoping he fails so it proves the Wings were right about him. Am I the bad guy? Lol I suspect many fans share the same sentiment. I am ambivalent towards him moving forward myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, jz68 said: Everyone wishing him well and I'm just sitting here hoping he fails so it proves the Wings were right about him. Am I the bad guy? Meh - even if he succeeds with the Sharks the Wings weren't wrong about him. He wasn't succeeding here and he had the chance to play under two very different coaches so you it not like you blame it all on Blashill for not liking him or the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted July 10, 2023 Author Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, jz68 said: Everyone wishing him well and I'm just sitting here hoping he fails so it proves the Wings were right about him. Am I the bad guy? I like a guy who bets on himself, taking a financial risk doing so that may look foolish to many. I'd like him to recoup over the next 3-4 years enough financially to break even on that bet. But without lighting the world on fire offensively in San Jose! Edited July 10, 2023 by lordstanley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I don’t care about Zadina one way or the other. He seems to have butted heads with two different coaching staffs but couldn’t get it done their way or his. Good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I would expect Zadina to score 15-20 goals for San Jose next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskanTigersFan Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: With Debrincat in a winged wheel uniform now, are your expectations for them to make the playoffs? And if they don't, is the season a failure for you? 1 more year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: 1 more year. No. No more "1 more year" from these teams. Sick of "1 more year" or "just have to wait". This town is itching for ANY team to make the playoffs and win a playoff game. When was the last time any of the four major sports teams in Detroit won a playoff game? 2016? Enough already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskanTigersFan Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: No. No more "1 more year" from these teams. Sick of "1 more year" or "just have to wait". This town is itching for ANY team to make the playoffs and win a playoff game. When was the last time any of the four major sports teams in Detroit won a playoff game? 2016? Enough already. You can be sick of it all you want. Wings need 1 more year. Lions are your best bet this year. Pistons are 1 or 2 years away.... Tigers are about 2 or 3 years away from relevance........ They are the prime example of when you quit a rebuild too early. The other three Detroit teams should take notes. Avila quit too early and now they are stuck in no mans land. If the Wings sellout now, it will screw em over. If they wait one more year, they will be a lot better positioned to be competitive for the next decade......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: I would expect Zadina to score 15-20 goals for San Jose next year. I think he would need a lot of lucky bounces for this to happen. He would have to take just over 300 shots to hit 20 goals if his usual shooting percentage carries over, he probably would need to rework his shot/release pretty heavily to get there I would imagine. He has a worse career shooting percentage than Darren Helm, and that's with Zadina shooting double his usual shooting percentage randomly in 28 games in 2019-20. Usually he shoots about 6% which is....not great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Yeah, April 17, 2016 was the last playoff game victory - from the Red Wings in a 5 game series vs. Tampa Bay. Tigers last playoff win was October 16, 2013 Pistons last playoff win was May 26, 2008 Lions last playoff win was January 5, 1992 ENOUGH ALREADY ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: You can be sick of it all you want. Wings need 1 more year. Lions are your best bet this year. Pistons are 1 or 2 years away.... Tigers are about 2 or 3 years away from relevance........ They are the prime example of when you quit a rebuild too early. The other three Detroit teams should take notes. Avila quit too early and now they are stuck in no mans land. If the Wings sellout now, it will screw em over. If they wait one more year, they will be a lot better positioned to be competitive for the next decade......... Pistons 1 or 2 years away? LOL. Pistons are a disgrace and Cade is one more injury from being a big bust. I feel like the Pistons won the draft lottery in the weakest year for a #1 pick. Pistons are pointless. Even if Cade develops (2 years behind schedule), as soon as he does he'll bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 and there is seemingly too many things going right and too much love for the Lions. Something's gotta go horribly wrong. I just can't believe there going to be as good as everyone (including me) thinks. It's the Lions. Something you'd never expect will happen. Remember - about 3 years ago the Browns were ready to go all the way and BOOM - disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothfacekilla Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I guess now we just need to trade for Erik Karlsson to placate some people who want to win now 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: You can be sick of it all you want. Wings need 1 more year. Lions are your best bet this year. Pistons are 1 or 2 years away.... Tigers are about 2 or 3 years away from relevance........ They are the prime example of when you quit a rebuild too early. The other three Detroit teams should take notes. Avila quit too early and now they are stuck in no mans land. If the Wings sellout now, it will screw em over. If they wait one more year, they will be a lot better positioned to be competitive for the next decade......... Wings do have the personnel in the system to provide upside surprise if one or two more guys breakthrough, but that would be gravy. Edited July 11, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskanTigersFan Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 30 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: and there is seemingly too many things going right and too much love for the Lions. Something's gotta go horribly wrong. I just can't believe there going to be as good as everyone (including me) thinks. It's the Lions. Something you'd never expect will happen. Remember - about 3 years ago the Browns were ready to go all the way and BOOM - disaster. Language kids - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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