Summer 2023 Off-Season Thread

[lordstanley]

12 minutes ago, buddha said:

depth signings to get us to the salary floor.

Unless a splash is coming, seems like we are going back in time to about 3 years ago. With Yzerman and Chris Iliitch deciding that we are not close enough to being good so let’s spend as little as possible and buckle up for a bad year but high pick. I sure hope that’s not the case. 

Edited July 1, 2023 by lordstanley

[lordstanley]

1 hour ago, Shinzaki said:

Reimer can get waived to go to GR if need be.  Not a fan of the Holl signing.  Ok with Sprong...esp for a year.  

Would rather have Killorn

Killorn and Bunting both now off the board. 

[slothfacekilla]

3 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

Killorn and Bunting both now off the board. 

That Killorn deal is nuts 

[Shinzaki]

Anaheim gets Killorn and  Gudas....we get ( so far) Sprong and Holl.   Not liking this....

[lordstanley]

11 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

That Killorn deal is nuts 

For sure. I could have lived with the Bunting deal although his offensive numbers are inflated by playing on high-scoring Toronto. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

43 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

Unless a splash is coming, seems like we are going back in time to about 3 years ago. With Yzerman and Chris Iliitch deciding that we are not close enough to being good so let’s spend as little as possible and buckle up for a bad year but high pick. I sure hope that’s not the case. 

Unless Raymond steps up in a big way or some unforeseen rookie comes up and has a huge year, I don't see where the offensive production is going to come from on this team. Do we have more than one or two players next year that are capable of netting more than 25 goals and 50 points? I expect 35 year old David Perron to regress at some point in the very near future. Where is the production coming from, with or without his regression?

[Shinzaki]

3 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

For sure. I could have lived with the Bunting deal although his offensive numbers are inflated by playing on high-scoring Toronto. 

I could live with one of those given our cap situation

[lordstanley]

This reminds me of the past 2 off seasons of the Tigers. Offseason before last the Tigers went out and made some notable signings like Baez and E-Rod. Team flopped so pulled back this offseason and went cheapo. Wings made some signings last summer like Copp and Perron which gave hope of moving forward. Seemed to be going according to plan until a bad couple of games against Ottawa seems to have freaked out the front office. Sold off two of their best half-dozen players and then went cheapo this offseason, at least so far. 

Edited July 1, 2023 by lordstanley

[slothfacekilla]

I wish they would have gone cheaper and maybe they wouldn’t have signed Reimer or Holl.

[Kacie]

Not sure if anyone else caught the interview with Larkin at the Rocket Mortgage Classic, but when asked about the upcoming season he said something to the effect that the Wings need to bring in "talent".  He wasn't shy last season about the Bertuzzi trade and how it took the wind of out the sails of the team when they felt they were close to getting into the playoff hunt.  Why sign the guy for 8 years and hang him out to dry?  Is he going to hang around another 2-3 years just to make the playoffs?  I feel like DeBrincat would get them to the floor and actually improve the team.  

[lordstanley]

7 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

I wish they would have gone cheaper and maybe they wouldn’t have signed Reimer or Holl.

Reimer and Ned signed for identical contracts today so it was like a flip. I’m ok with that but Reimer better be better than he was last year. Which may not happen as he is no spring chicken. 
 

Gotta admit, I don’t think I’ve been this bummed about a Wings signing (Holl) since resigning Cleary. I’m reeling, it’s like the bubble has burst on any illusion that Yzerman is playing 3D chess. Holl was SO bad. 

[slothfacekilla]

Apparently DeBrincats agent has been given permission to talk contract with some teams.

 

twitter is busted not sure if this will work

[Dan Gilmore]

It worked. 👍

I’m not keen on the players so far, aside from Kostin and much of the draft. Debrincat could change that appraisal, and/or other signings.

[jz68]

Word is that DeBrincat's agent has been given permission to speak with "certain teams".   I have faith in Stevie, our hometown boy is going to be a Red Wing. 

[Dan Gilmore]

Following up on Shinzaki’s mention of Lindstrom needing to bulk up on muscle, I hope that applies to a number of the youngsters- Edvinson and Soderblom are too slight of build to fully use their size. Ras to some extent too, but he did improve on his toughness level. 

Edited July 1, 2023 by Dan Gilmore
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[buddha]

you guys bitched about chairot - with good reason - and you want to give gudas a 4 year deal to be paying him when he's 38?  

michael bunting?  ummmm....why?

you see a shiny new toy and want to buy him.  that's not how you win in the long run.

you want to give bertuzzi 8x8 now?

[buddha]

JT compher.  5x5

there, ya jackals, you happy now?

lol, still dont know where the goals come from, but they'll be better on defense.

we're totally going to be the islanders.

[slothfacekilla]

He seems like a solid player

[Hongbit]

21 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

He seems like a solid player

A solid top 6 forward.   Strengthens 2nd line where he can either center or wing.  

[gehringer_2]

7 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

A solid top 6 forward.   Strengthens 2nd line where he can either center or wing.  

and a right shot

[slothfacekilla]

So I guess the Yzerplan is to build more of an Islanders type of team that is theoretically tough to play against rather than what he did in Tampa Bay which I would say was go for a more skilled up-tempo roster.  It makes some sense with the bad luck they've had in the draft lotteries (and he wasn't blessed with a number 1 defenseman and number 1 center like he was in Tampa when he took that job) but I can't say that it excites me a ton.  At least now Veleno shouldn't be anywhere except line four as a center.

[gehringer_2]

6 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said:

So I guess the Yzerplan is to build more of an Islanders type of team that is theoretically tough to play against rather than what he did in Tampa Bay which I would say was go for a more skilled up-tempo roster.  It makes some sense with the bad luck they've had in the draft lotteries (and he wasn't blessed with a number 1 defenseman and number 1 center like he was in Tampa when he took that job) but I can't say that it excites me a ton.  At least now Veleno shouldn't be anywhere except line four as a center.

Build a fundamentally solid team, keep your economics sound so you have the money to strike if a star becomes available on the market, and meanwhile scout like crazy and hope for a star with the picks you get. So, true - not an exciting swing at the fences strategy, but a tactically sound one that should at least get them back to consistent playoff presense.

Edited July 1, 2023 by gehringer_2

[lordstanley]

48 minutes ago, buddha said:

lol, still dont know where the goals come from, but they'll be better on defense.

we're totally going to be the islanders.

1-4-1 formation. One goalie, four defensive players, one sniper. Just not sure who the sniper is going to be.

[slothfacekilla]

2 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

1-4-1 formation. One goalie, four defensive players, one sniper. Just not sure who the sniper is going to be.

Time to sign Anthony Mantha

[Shinzaki]

2 hours ago, Shinzaki said:

Anaheim gets Killorn and  Gudas....we get ( so far) Sprong and Holl.   Not liking this....

JT Compher RH 2nd line C...liking this