lordstanley Posted July 1, 2023 Author Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: Time to sign Anthony Mantha I believe Tomas Tatar is still unsigned, or was as of a few hours ago. Edited July 1, 2023 by lordstanley Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, slothfacekilla said: So I guess the Yzerplan is to build more of an Islanders type of team that is theoretically tough to play against rather than what he did in Tampa Bay which I would say was go for a more skilled up-tempo roster. It makes some sense with the bad luck they've had in the draft lotteries (and he wasn't blessed with a number 1 defenseman and number 1 center like he was in Tampa when he took that job) but I can't say that it excites me a ton. At least now Veleno shouldn't be anywhere except line four as a center. I think Kostin takes over as 4th line Center. Bigger, tougher, and has some offense. That's why I'm also OK with Sprong. Adding toughness and scoring on the 4th line actually squeezes the skill players. Either Zadina improves his touch or he'll get squeezed right off the roster. Same with Lindstrom, Berggren, Veleno and multiple other fringe players... Getting squeezed from both the top level players and the bottom 4th line/ 3rd pairing players can't be comfortable. Especially if guys do indeed get squeezed off the roster... Edited July 1, 2023 by 1984Echoes Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 I like that Compher signing for depth scoring. I'm more excited about the Debrincat news though that his agent has been given permission to speak with certain other teams. I am holding out hope that we're one of those teams and that Stevie is talking to his agent. If we needed Debrincat and Compher that'd be solid. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 34 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Build a fundamentally solid team, keep your economics sound so you have the money to strike if a star becomes available on the market . . . A star as in trading for William Nylander? Like they type of star? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 28 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: I think Kostin takes over as 4th line Center. Bigger, tougher, and has some offense. That's why I'm also OK with Sprong. Adding toughness and scoring on the 4th line actually squeezes the skill players. Either Zadina improves his touch or he'll get squeezed right off the roster. Same with Lindstrom, Berggren, Veleno and multiple other fringe players... Getting squeezed from both the top level players and the bottom 4th line/ 3rd pairing players can't be comfortable. Especially if guys do indeed get squeezed off the roster... it's already been talked around, but I can't see Zadina or Veleno sticking very long this season unless they both elevate their games substantially. Berggren probably gets more run. Lindstrom being a defensemen - esp a R shot, patience there is understandable. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: A star as in trading for William Nylander? Like they type of star? LOL - Toronto has to be so psycho-paranoid over the cup dought by now, who knows what they may do. Edited July 1, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote
slothfacekilla Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, lordstanley said: No thanks! Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: it's already been talked around, but I can't see Zadina or Veleno sticking very long this season unless they both elevate their games substantially. Berggren probably gets more run. Lindstrom being a defensemen - esp a R shot, patience there is understandable. But he's also (Lindstrom) going to get squeezed on the Right Side... Both defenseman they signed are Right shots. That's the squeeze from the bottom. Obviously Seider is at the top... but I think Pellikka will also move quickly. Not this year obviously... he'll be in the SHL... But in 2024 I'm guessing Pellika makes it stateside and starts pressuring for a Red Wings roster spot. Even if he has to go to Grand Rapids for most of 2024... he's going to put tremendous pressure on the bottom of the right side D as he and Seider dominate the top (eventually). Who survives at the bottom? Lindstrom? Can he grow? If not, the bottom level signings we just made will squeeze him out. That's what I mean by pressuring from both the top of the roster and the bottom. Agree on the assessments of Veleno, Zadina & Berggren. Quote
Shinzaki Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 Christian Fischer rumored to be signing...another RH forward with size and "grit" Quote
slothfacekilla Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 Is there a trade in the works I feel like the Wings are adding a ton of players… Quote
gehringer_2 Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: But he's also (Lindstrom) going to get squeezed on the Right Side... Both defenseman they signed are Right shots. That's the squeeze from the bottom. Obviously Seider is at the top... but I think Pellikka will also move quickly. Not this year obviously... he'll be in the SHL... But in 2024 I'm guessing Pellika makes it stateside and starts pressuring for a Red Wings roster spot. Even if he has to go to Grand Rapids for most of 2024... he's going to put tremendous pressure on the bottom of the right side D as he and Seider dominate the top (eventually). Who survives at the bottom? Lindstrom? Can he grow? If not, the bottom level signings we just made will squeeze him out. That's what I mean by pressuring from both the top of the roster and the bottom. Agree on the assessments of Veleno, Zadina & Berggren. They only signed Lindstrom for a year - so it's not like there is any deep committment there. If the knock was he needs to be stronger, the year you turn 25 is about time to show you are. Quote
lordstanley Posted July 1, 2023 Author Posted July 1, 2023 https://twitter.com/craigsmorgan/status/1675280388460257280?s=61&t=don8lQTnTq5FKXq14p2GMw 18 minutes ago, Shinzaki said: Christian Fischer rumored to be signing...another RH forward with size and "grit" Can a team have three 4th lines? 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 Yep. (Forgot it was just 1 year... put up or shut up time....) Quote
Shinzaki Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) Man...we are adding some bodies today.... 2nd pairing with Holl? Edited July 1, 2023 by Shinzaki Quote
lordstanley Posted July 1, 2023 Author Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) More on Fischer. Edited July 1, 2023 by lordstanley Quote
Dan Gilmore Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 Patch up the roster with an emphasis on size and toughness with short-term FAs while the next wave in the minors matures? Quote
lordstanley Posted July 1, 2023 Author Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Shinzaki said: Man...we are adding some bodies today.... 2nd pairing with Holl? I’m losing track, 7? Reimer Lyon Holl Sprong Compher Christian Gostisbehere EDIT: Kostin yesterday makes 8 Edited July 1, 2023 by lordstanley Quote
lordstanley Posted July 2, 2023 Author Posted July 2, 2023 Interesting on DeBrincat. So maybe it was Debrincat’s demands not Ottawa’s demands that was or is the obstacle to a deal with the Wings https://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ottawa-senators/garrioch-ottawa-senators-need-help-from-alex-debrincat-to-complete-a-trade General manager Pierre Dorion confirmed Saturday, the day NHL free agency opened, he had given Jackson permission to talk contract with more than one team in an attempt to facilitate a trade, but those trades fell through because DeBrincat’s camp didn’t like the term they were being offered. Quote
AlaskanTigersFan Posted July 2, 2023 Posted July 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, lordstanley said: I’m losing track, 7? Reimer Lyon Holl Sprong Compher Christian Gostisbehere EDIT: Kostin yesterday makes 8 Dang. So which wings Lost their jobs.....? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted July 2, 2023 Posted July 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Interesting on DeBrincat. So maybe it was Debrincat’s demands not Ottawa’s demands that was or is the obstacle to a deal with the Wings https://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ottawa-senators/garrioch-ottawa-senators-need-help-from-alex-debrincat-to-complete-a-trade General manager Pierre Dorion confirmed Saturday, the day NHL free agency opened, he had given Jackson permission to talk contract with more than one team in an attempt to facilitate a trade, but those trades fell through because DeBrincat’s camp didn’t like the term they were being offered. LOL - Ottawa scores on their own goal by raising his expectations with the 8 yr offer. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted July 2, 2023 Posted July 2, 2023 1 minute ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: Dang. So which wings Lost their jobs.....? From last season, beyond Berggrem, Seider, Larkin, Ras, Raymond, Perron, Maata, Walmon who would we miss? Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted July 2, 2023 Posted July 2, 2023 Something tells me if Gostisbehere is playing well by the deadline and we're all but officially out of playoff contention that he could get flipped for a pick/picks. I like the signing though for what it is. Being over 30 he doesn't our timeline long-term, but I like the deal. Quote
Shinzaki Posted July 2, 2023 Posted July 2, 2023 Fischer is officially signed. Clearly...Yzerman was tired of seeing teams running at us. Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 2, 2023 Posted July 2, 2023 15 hours ago, Dan Gilmore said: Patch up the roster with an emphasis on size and toughness with short-term FAs while the next wave in the minors matures? That's exactly what it looks like. Also... He's putting a serious squeeze on the roster so that will up the pressure on marginal guys... A lot, I am guessing... Prove it or improve it or lose it. Quote
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