HeyAbbott Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 There's no intent by the Tiger's brass to reach the playoffs,or even a winning record this year. If there is a decent return pitching will be traded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 I’d also be OK with trading prospects that other teams value for players that fit our team. We can take on salary. We don’t have to label our activity as either buying or selling—I think we can consider both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 9 hours ago, Tenacious D said: I’d also be OK with trading prospects that other teams value for players that fit our team. We can take on salary. We don’t have to label our activity as either buying or selling—I think we can consider both. "We are 'Positioning' at the Trade Deadline this year...". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Tenacious D said: I’d also be OK with trading prospects that other teams value for players that fit our team. We can take on salary. We don’t have to label our activity as either buying or selling—I think we can consider both. We are not trading prospects so we can win this year. Edited June 18, 2023 by chasfh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 19 hours ago, Tenacious D said: I’d also be OK with trading prospects that other teams value for players that fit our team. We can take on salary. We don’t have to label our activity as either buying or selling—I think we can consider both. This makes sense. Even if we are or are not going to get higher priced per say FAs then they need to consider this. Trading prospects does not mean the higher end types (Keith, PMeadows, Campos, Jung, etc.). Teams evaluate differently and a fringe guy for us may be a strong consideration for another organization (and vice-versa). Any way to make the team/organization stronger moving forward has to be considered. It may not be as cut & dry as 'Sellers or Buyers' - maybe both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 20 hours ago, HeyAbbott said: There's no intent by the Tiger's brass to reach the playoffs,or even a winning record this year. If there is a decent return pitching will be traded True. Yet, if we can throw in a valued fringe prospect or two so the return is greater, then that may be a way to go also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, chasfh said: We are not trading prospects so we can win this year. Duh No is advocating that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 we should trade a couple fringe prospects for a guy like carlos guillen. or placido polanco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 4 hours ago, chasfh said: We are not trading prospects so we can win this year. Not "to win" this year, necessarily... But just to add a key element to the team, for future/ short-term use. It would be a Paredes for Austin Meadows trade only hopefully not for someone who falls apart at the seams... Sorry to Austin, it's, just, the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 42 minutes ago, buddha said: we should trade a couple fringe prospects for a guy like carlos guillen. or placido polanco. Or this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 42 minutes ago, buddha said: we should trade a couple fringe prospects for a guy like carlos guillen. or placido polanco. If Harris is going to turn this organization around, then that's the kind of thing he needs to be able to do creative things like that. I think you and Echo might disagree on who is a fringe prospect though!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Add in Doug Fister. And Anibel Sanchez. Also... does Harris even have those chops? DD certainly did... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, 1984Echoes said: Add in Doug Fister. And Anibel Sanchez. Also... does Harris even have those chops? DD certainly did... I don't think we know that yet for sure. He had some success in San Francisco with pitchers. He has made some promising trades with the Tigers, but I grade them as incomplete at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 He's going to have to make trades because the free agent class isn't deep. They have the payroll flexibility to get very creative though. They could absorb a bad contract for a better return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted June 18, 2023 Author Share Posted June 18, 2023 I am thinking Haase might get traded for another team's bum (a platoon LH infielder or a platoon RH outfielder). Not much drop off to Knapp or Papierski; either would give Hinch the L/R match up he likes to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleMike Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Tiger337 said: If Harris is going to turn this organization around, then that's the kind of thing he needs to be able to do creative things like that. I think you and Echo might disagree on who is a fringe prospect though!. The Tigers needed a SS entering the 2004 season. DD signed Omar Vizquel. Very fortunately he flunked the physical. DD then trades Ramon Santiago for Guillen. What if Vizquel doesn't flunk his physical? Probably no Guillen. Sometimes better to be lucky than good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleMike Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, RatkoVarda said: I am thinking Haase might get traded for another team's bum (a platoon LH infielder or a platoon RH outfielder). Not much drop off to Knapp or Papierski; either would give Hinch the L/R match up he likes to use. Haase and Rogers don't work in a platoon. Neither hits righties well. Could use an Alex Avila type but good luck finding a lefty hitting catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiger337 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Blair Calvo...The Tigers are buyers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 35 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Blair Calvo...The Tigers are buyers! The best that cash can buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted June 19, 2023 Author Share Posted June 19, 2023 Blair Calvo, SIRP Video Drafted: 23th Round, 2019 from Flagler College (COL) Age 27.0 Height 6′ 3″ Weight 195 Bat / Thr R / R FV 40 Tool Grades (Present/Future) Fastball Slider Command Sits/Tops 55/55 60/60 30/40 94-96 / 98 Calvo was a 23rd rounder out of Flagler College, a Division II school in St. Augustine, Florida. He took a circuitous route to get there, going from a Florida JUCO to rehabbing from TJ to transferring to Pitt and then to Flagler for his fifth season removed from high school. Calvo had a dominant foray into pro ball, striking out more than a batter per inning in a long relief role during his 2021 Low-A debut. As with Gavin Hollowell, the Rockies skipped Calvo over High-A and sent him to Hartford to start 2022, where he excelled in a single-inning role until the end of May. In his final May outing, Calvo’s heart began racing uncontrollably on the mound and he had to be taken to the hospital. He was dealing with a previously undiagnosed heart arrhythmia called ventricular tachycardia. Shelved for two months while he and his doctors decided how Calvo could safely proceed with a life that included baseball, he was back in August and picked up Fall League innings before the Rockies added him to the 40-man roster in the offseason. Calvo sits 94-96 mph (and peaks above that) with a plus-plus flashing slider in the 83-86 mph range. His arm is very whippy and Calvo’s stride home opens up his hips in a way that’s atypical of most pitchers, possibly creating some deception. His command is comfortably below average, but typical of a single-inning reliever. It’s most detrimental when Calvo goes through stretches where his slider doesn’t finish and is left hanging in the zone, but mostly he looks like a standard fastball/slider middle reliever who has carved a remarkable path on his way there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 reliever who throws hard but has control problems! yes sir! sign me up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted June 19, 2023 Author Share Posted June 19, 2023 a 40 grade prospect for nothing but cash seems like a smart move every time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 As a reminder, nobody in this organization is one of Harris’ guys. He didn’t draft any of them and holds no attachment. We could see some surprises at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 Hopefully they can turn Miggy and Schoop's $40 million salary into a couple good power hitters for next year. A deadline deal isn't realistic but maybe in the offseason some major league hitters can join the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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