LongLiveMaroth Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 I don’t know how that helps Cleveland at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 did cleveland need someone to put on the disabled list? is that a thing? are they trying to win a "who has the most injured players" contest? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Who’d we get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 11:06 AM, Tigeraholic1 said: Hearing Cincy looking to move Jonathan India for young controllable pitching. Not sure he would be a great fit though he is only 26. Ibanez is actually pretty good at 2nd base. And he's been hitting much better, a tough out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 48 minutes ago, buddha said: did cleveland need someone to put on the disabled list? is that a thing? are they trying to win a "who has the most injured players" contest? That is a title the Tigers can win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Ibanez is actually pretty good at 2nd base. And he's been hitting much better, a tough out. His OBP is still comfortably below .300. Not good. Its actually slightly lower recently than the past year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Lol angels just gonna give up the next 7 years to try and make the wild card this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 4 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: I don’t know how that helps Cleveland at all Syndergaard is ready/close to come off the DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Cleveland is getting killed on twitter but astutely they decided that Rosario's' defense is so bad they can not win with him at shortstop and as such he has no place to play. While Syndergard sucks perhaps he was hurt and at least provides depth allowing them to trade a starting pitcher for offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Angels just gave up their number 2 and number 3 prospects for Giolito and a reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Now that Ohtani is off the market the trades will start happening. Come on Harris it's your "moment of truth" again. Kill it like the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 Thank you Angels! that should help not only set a high prospect price but also takes a SP out of the already shallow pool of available guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said: Angels just gave up their number 2 and number 3 prospects for Giolito and a reliever. And Giolito is a FA at the end of the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: And Giolito is a FA at the end of the season? Yes he is. I think the reliever is also but not sure. The Angels minor leagues are not good so their second and third rated prospects might not be as good as it sounds but it can’t hurt our return for Erod and Lorenzen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 I guess if the Angels making a little run will help them keep Ohtani long term then it will be worth it but if he ends up bolting anyway at the end of the season the way they handled this deadline could be a killer for the franchise going forward. They not only would be losing out on potentially getting multiple high end guys for Ohtani but also lose all the prospects they are trading away by being buyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said: I guess if the Angels making a little run will help them keep Ohtani long term then it will be worth it but if he ends up bolting anyway at the end of the season the way they handled this deadline could be a killer for the franchise going forward. They not only would be losing out on potentially getting multiple high end guys for Ohtani but also lose all the prospects they are trading away by being buyers. They are 4 games and 4 teams (the teams may be the biggest hurdle) out of the playoffs. I would expect the Angels to make more moves. Is there a copy & paste of Norris for Olson available here for the Tigers? I don't fault them for going for it. It isn't just about the playoffs next season. Keeping Ohtani around to build around may be the bigger goal. But their mistake isn't necessarily going to be how they play this trade deadline. Their biggest mistake is how they haven't been able to put a playoff team on the field in the 6 seasons that Ohtani (and Trout) have been around. Edited July 27, 2023 by casimir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 3 hours ago, SoCalTiger said: Yes he is. I think the reliever is also but not sure. The Angels minor leagues are not good so their second and third rated prospects might not be as good as it sounds but it can’t hurt our return for Erod and Lorenzen. Yeah Lopez is also a FA at the end of the season. Going off of Fangraphs they had Quero as a 50 and Bush as a 40 Pipeline had them as 55 and 50. Giolito was probably #1 SP on the market with E-Rod a bit behind him mainly for contract reasons so my hope for E-Rod is at least a 50 prospect. Obviously if we can combine him with Cisnero or Shreve to get more even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 7 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Syndergaard is ready/close to come off the DL all this means is that Syndegaard is ready/close to go back on the DL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 When the first shoe drops for the Tigers and they send Erod and Lorenzen away I'll be remembering Ana from Guns of Navarone when she tells Captain Mallory this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Just now, romad1 said: When the first shoe drops for the Tigers and they send Erod and Lorenzen away I'll be remembering Ana from Guns of Navarone when she tells Captain Mallory this Of course she gets hers for being a naysayer. A smoking hot naysayer to be sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: I guess if the Angels making a little run will help them keep Ohtani long term then it will be worth it but if he ends up bolting anyway at the end of the season the way they handled this deadline could be a killer for the franchise going forward. They not only would be losing out on potentially getting multiple high end guys for Ohtani but also lose all the prospects they are trading away by being buyers. and Trout while still a great player when he plays, can't stay on the field - has only averaged 3.2 WAR/yr over the last 4 seasons. Edited July 27, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Just now, gehringer_2 said: and Trout while still a great player when he plays, can't stay on the field - has only averaged 3.2/yr over the last 4 seasons. It's a small sample but as of now it appears that the Angels atleast got lucky with the Moniak pick up as he has essentially put up Trout like numbers in his absence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 I would like to see Trout and Ohtani in the playoffs - think it would be great for baseball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, LongLiveMaroth said: Yeah Lopez is also a FA at the end of the season. Going off of Fangraphs they had Quero as a 50 and Bush as a 40 Pipeline had them as 55 and 50. Giolito was probably #1 SP on the market with E-Rod a bit behind him mainly for contract reasons so my hope for E-Rod is at least a 50 prospect. Obviously if we can combine him with Cisnero or Shreve to get more even better. Not sure I agree that ERod is behind Giolito. He’s out pitched him and likely opts out, essentially making him a free agent like Lucas. And if he doesn’t opt out, the acquiring team has Rodriguez on a 3-year, team friendly contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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