casimir Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 7 hours ago, kdog said: The Tigers need pitching in their system...they have no depth and very few prospects. "asmuchtalentaspossible" is the word I would use here. 1 Quote
mtutiger Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, casimir said: "asmuchtalentaspossible" is the word I would use here. Yeah, beggars can't be choosers. And tbh, the Tigers have shown a better ability to develop pitching and to sell the place to free agents (see Lorenzen), so I think they could manage even if they don't add to those ranks in trades. Quote
casimir Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 33 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Yeah, beggars can't be choosers. And tbh, the Tigers have shown a better ability to develop pitching and to sell the place to free agents (see Lorenzen), so I think they could manage even if they don't add to those ranks in trades. If ever there comes a time when the Tigers have too many pitching prospects, they can surely find some trade partners to help them out. Same goes for position players. The focus right now should simply be to get the best package of talent in return of impending free agents before the trade deadline. Now, there can be debate about quality versus quantity, I think that's fair. But I wouldn't be too worried about pitcher or position player right now. 1 Quote
Toddwert Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 Just now, 1776 said: …still waiting… It’s a day and half away so.. Quote
chasfh Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 7 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: It is depressing that given the draft resources Avila committed to pitching how thin Tiger MiLB pitching is again already. Incompetence will out. Quote
chasfh Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 If the Cubs are buying, they're gonna need bullpen help, so maybe Lange right back to them for Cristian Hernandez? Lange's a devil they know and they shouldn't need shortstop prospects for a while. Quote
Toddwert Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, chasfh said: Incompetence will out. I think you also have to blame Dombrowski some …. The player development was improved by Al so what was it like under Dave? Dave was just better at getting good players 1 Quote
chasfh Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Toddwert said: I think you also have to blame Dombrowski some …. The player development was improved by Al so what was it like under Dave? Dave was just better at getting good players Was it improved? Not sure, but either way, the bar is super low. Quote
Toddwert Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, chasfh said: Was it improved? Not sure, but either way, the bar is super low. He brought in more modern thinking with more of a stat focus …. Not saying he was great at it just pointing out the Tigers organization bad run has had many GM running it into the ground Quote
chasfh Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Toddwert said: He brought in more modern thinking with more of a stat focus …. Not saying he was great at it just pointing out the Tigers organization bad run has had many GM running it into the ground I know Avila paid lip service to modern thinking with more of a stat focus, at least for the short time he felt pressured to, but it was easy to see more than five years ago that they weren’t taking it seriously. Edited July 31, 2023 by chasfh Quote
Edman85 Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 55 minutes ago, 1776 said: …still waiting… They shuffled the rotation and Hinch all but admitted Eduardo and Lorenzen are likely to be traded. Why does it matter if the trade happens August 1 or July 28? Quote
RatkoVarda Posted July 31, 2023 Author Posted July 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Edman85 said: They shuffled the rotation and Hinch all but admitted Eduardo and Lorenzen are likely to be traded. Why does it matter if the trade happens August 1 or July 28? could be Harris got an acceptable offer, but waiting to see if another team tops it Quote
Shinzaki Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 Morosi on 97.1 this AM...says it's likely the last year they are sellers 1 Quote
Edman85 Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Shinzaki said: Morosi on 97.1 this AM...says it's likely the last year they are sellers I really hope they aren't making decisions on "buying or selling" next year now. I wouldn't put much stock in this. I'm sure up until a month ago, the Mets weren't planning on "selling." If you fall out of contention, you sell so you can recoup value for your roster. This depends entirely on how the season goes. 1 Quote
Cruzer1 Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, chasfh said: If the Cubs are buying, they're gonna need bullpen help, so maybe Lange right back to them for Cristian Hernandez? Lange's a devil they know and they shouldn't need shortstop prospects for a while. His star has crashed down to earth, Fangraphs has him rated as their 13th best prospect. Quote
chasfh Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said: His star has crashed down to earth, Fangraphs has him rated as their 13th best prospect. Harris doesn't seem like a guy who chases numbered prospects, so it might depend on whether he and Hinch believe Hernandez, or whomever they go after with Lange (if at all), has the right kind of skills they can optimize. Quote
Tenacious D Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 Don’t we have a SS that is signed for four more years? Quote
RandyMarsh Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 With the way Lange has been pitching and just his overall inconsistencies Id be more than happy/surprised if we could even get a Christian Hernandez type even with him losing some of his luster. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: With the way Lange has been pitching and just his overall inconsistencies Id be more than happy/surprised if we could even get a Christian Hernandez type even with him losing some of his luster. Yup. Even in his last successful outing I don't think I saw him throw more than 2 FB for strikes. Batters were helping him out not forcing him to throw a strike. He's going to get less and less of that if his FB command doesn't get better. Edited July 31, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote
casimir Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 36 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Don’t we have a SS that is signed for four more years? He's going to get benched and then get mad and then opt out due to frustration. Quote
Tigermojo Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Edman85 said: They shuffled the rotation and Hinch all but admitted Eduardo and Lorenzen are likely to be traded. Why does it matter if the trade happens August 1 or July 28? Because emotions! Quote
1776 Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 41 minutes ago, casimir said: He's going to get benched and then get mad and then opt out due to frustration. But AJ will go visit him at his home again to learn who Harvy really is at heart and what makes him tick. AJ’s just that kind of guy. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted July 31, 2023 Posted July 31, 2023 44 minutes ago, casimir said: He's going to get benched and then get mad and then opt out due to frustration. It would be nice to have players who earn playing time rather than have to play them because they make a lot of money. Novel concept.... Quote
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