Toddwert Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Just now, Longgone said: I believe what Passan is saying is that they worked out a deal, but couldn't satisfy ERod, which is why the deal is now "dead". That might be about the opt out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I usually assume it's all about the money, but given the personal problems he had last year, being close to home certainly could be an important consideration for him. I was wondering that too, but we're only talking two months, so unless something is at hand for him right now, I don't think that's as much a consideration. The more I think about it, the more I'm thinking Dodgers is still on the table and he's trying to squeeze the maximum out of the deal. Although there's also the Orioles, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 the dodgers probably wouldnt agree to extend him at the number he wants, so rodriguez nixed the deal. which is why you put teams like that on the no trade list, it gives you leverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I wonder who we were going to get from the Dodgers? Dalton Rushing, Nick Frasso... maybe one more lower level guy... (just WAG'ing...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 So I wasted how much of my day waiting for what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, buddha said: the dodgers probably wouldnt agree to extend him at the number he wants, so rodriguez nixed the deal. which is why you put teams like that on the no trade list, it gives you leverage. I doubt he wants to be extended, when he can be an unfettered free agent in a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Toddwert said: Because its a waste of time if he nixes it… I think you can do both at the same time Harris isnt working alone Scherzer and Verlander waived their no-trades... IIRC. Edited August 1, 2023 by 1984Echoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Just now, chasfh said: I was wondering that too, but we're only talking two months, so unless something is at hand for him right now, I don't think that's as much a consideration. The more I think about it, the more I'm thinking Dodgers is still on the table and he's trying to squeeze the maximum out of the deal. Although there's also the Orioles, too. It's two months, but not necessarily. If he struggles down the stretch he's stuck there three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Longgone said: I doubt he wants to be extended, when he can be an unfettered free agent in a few months. he could also blow out his arm in two months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Just now, Longgone said: I doubt he wants to be extended, when he can be an unfettered free agent in a few months. Agree. I’m not sure what an acquiring team could offer in this situation. Harris whiffed on his best offer, if this news is accurate. Will be interesting to see how/if he addresses it with the Tigers media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 He wants to stay closer to home. Flights out of LAX can be excruciating. Not to mention jet lag every 5 days 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Just now, KL2 said: he could also blow out his arm in two months. Then he won't opt out and he has his current contract as security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I wonder what Mark Gorosh is thinking 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Longgone said: Then he won't opt out and he has his current contract as security. In LA, where he apparently doesn’t want to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Longgone said: Then he won't opt out and he has his current contract as security. and he could tack on 2 years and 60 million to his deal right now and have that security instead of risk FA. Plenty of reasons to want an extension today instead of taking a risk of Free agency even though its just months away, like you suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, chasfh said: t might be a negotiating ploy except that it's late in the day (1 hr left) to do any negotiating. It was a better plan for a deal doing down yesterday. If you're the Dodgers you might not have much appetite to try to have a detailed discussion with a guy you've got no history with when you're in the middle of trying to swing deadline deals in 60 min - you're likely just going to walk away if you have reasonable plan B without the loose ends. Edited August 1, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Tenacious D said: In LA, where he apparently doesn’t want to be. The original comment was he likely doesn't want an extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: He wants to stay closer to home. Flights out of LAX can be excruciating. Not to mention jet lag every 5 days So if this is the case, why deal with LA? Why even have a conversation? I can’t wait to hear what Harris says about this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, 1776 said: So if this is the case, why deal with LA? Why even have a conversation? I can’t wait to hear what Harris says about this. He won't say anything about it. When is the last time you heard a GM talk about a vetoed trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I miss Jim Campbell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Edman85 said: It's two months, but not necessarily. If he struggles down the stretch he's stuck there three years. Technically, yes, but I don't think aces think in such terms and let it affect their decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: He wants to stay closer to home. Flights out of LAX can be excruciating. Not to mention jet lag every 5 days OK, well, there we go, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: ... Harris whiffed on his best offer, if this news is accurate. Will be interesting to see how/if he addresses it with the Tigers media. 4 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: He wants to stay closer to home. Flights out of LAX can be excruciating. Not to mention jet lag every 5 days This is a whiff by Harris... If he's communicating with Eduardo... and is pretty certain he'll pull his no-trade option on a Dodgers deal... Then he should have been all-in on the Orioles instead... Harris can still negotiate with the Dodgers/ Reds/ etc./ other teams... But when push comes to shove, he has to pull the trigger on a deal from a team that Eduardo does not have on his no-trade/ cannot nix the deal. Even if it's a lower haul than a Dodgers deal... you take the best deal that won't be nixed. Push the Orioles as far as they'll go and take their deal. Even if a potential Dodgers deal is better... IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: except that it's late in the day (1 hr left) to do any negotiating. If you're the Dodgers you might not have much appetite to try to have a detailed discussion with a guy you've got no history with when you're in the middle of trying to swing deadline deals in 60 min - you're likely just going to walk away if you have reasonable plan B without the loose ends. This is all likely old news that happened days ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Edman85 said: It's two months, but not necessarily. If he struggles down the stretch he's stuck there three years. And LA is a great pitchers ball park. I don't know how stuck he would be. Even if he doesn't pitch well, he can still opt out and sign a one year deal with an East Coast team and rebuild his trade value - if the geopgraphy means that much to him. The Tigers are probably going to be terrible the rest of the way, he's not likely to add to his opt out value by staying here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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