bobrob2004 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: I prefer this one (OPS+): 2017 (Det) - 133 2018 (Det) - 91 2019 (Det) - 70 2020 (Det) - 137 2021 (Det) - 121 2022 (Det) - 82 2023 (Wash) - 128 Which tells me that Candy is an ABOVE-average hitter and that 2019 and 2022 were simply outliers. Ok, let's split the difference and use his career OPS+ of 102 and say he is just merely average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Is anyone at all worried that Dombrowski has a history of hyping up his prospects as better than they actually are and bilking other GMs to take them? Not for infielders, see Suarez and Adames 😅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Is anyone at all worried that Dombrowski has a history of hyping up his prospects as better than they actually are and bilking other GMs to take them? Like Enrique Suarez and Wiley Adames ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, KL2 said: Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 49s Eduardo Rodríguez and Jack Flaherty have strong markets, with a little more than 2 hours left to the deadline. Dodgers, Braves, Reds, Orioles, Marlins, DBacks all looking at rotation upgrades. sounds like the White Sox are also lying in the weeds with Dylan Cease. They don't have to trade him, but it sounds like they might if overwhelmed. Agree with the previous sentiment that his leaving the division would be a plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said: Not for infielders, see Suarez and Adames 😅 your too quick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Hey maybe Mize was the right choice Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 2m Joey Bart has been mentioned in the Giants trade talks. The No. 2 overall pick in the 2018 Draft could be moved in the next 2 hours. @MLBNetwork @MLBPipeline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben9753 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said: Like Enrique Suarez and Wiley Adames ? not an infielder but don't forget Jair Jurggens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 Harris certainly has a type. Lee's OBP last year at A: 384; this year at A+: 372; overall: 380. And plays 3 positions (at least now he does). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, RatkoVarda said: Harris certainly has a type. Lee's OBP last year at A: 384; this year at A+: 372; overall: 380. And plays 3 positions (at least now he does). He'll add a couple more positions by the time he reaches the Tigers. I do like the continued emphasis on on base skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Old friend alert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben9753 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: He'll add a couple more positions by the time he reaches the Tigers. I do like the continued emphasis on on base skills. Maybe one day they'll make a movie about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Looks like a good return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, casimir said: Marliger. Tiger Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Desperation in the air... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Is Lee basically a younger Wenceel Perez? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 Lee (20 all this year) will be the 2nd youngest player for WMI after Campos. I assume he will share 2b with Gold, 3b with Pacheco, and SS with Workman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 56 minutes ago, kdog said: 40+ FV Prospects 6. Hao-Yu Lee, 2B Video Signed: International Signing Period, 2021 from Taiwan (PHI) Age 20.2 Height 5′ 9″ Weight 190 Bat / Thr R / R FV 40+ Tool Grades (Present/Future) Hit Raw Power Game Power Run Fielding Throw 35/45 45/55 30/55 40/30 30/40 50 The Phillies are quite active in the Pacific Rim and tend to net interesting prospects for bonuses in the mid-six figures. Lee is the best of the recent contingent, a well-rounded, bat-first second base prospect who is coming off of a first full professional season during which he slashed .284/.386/.438 with nine home runs in 350 plate appearances, with the bulk of his games coming with Low-A Clearwater. Lee is a plate-crowding bucket strider looking to pull. His hands have exciting life, and he generates authoritative pull power for a such a young hitter. His track record of high-contact hitting dates back to his amateur days and has continued as a pro, where his contact rates (83% in-zone, 75% overall) were close to big league average even though his swing looks like it’s compromising his plate coverage. Whether such a pull-oriented approach to contact will be sustainable or leave Lee vulnerable on the outer half of the plate against upper-level arms we just won’t know until he faces them. For now, his contact and chase rates are a better-than-average mix. There’s a gap between scouts’ evaluations of Lee’s raw power during the spring of 2023 and what his measureable power output was in 2022. That might be because he missed six weeks in the middle of last season with a wrist fracture, which often causes power to return on a delay. Lee’s a thicker guy and doesn’t have deep-career power projection, but it’s reasonable to expect to see an uptick in 2023 as he gets further away from that fracture, and eyeball reports from the Carpenter Complex suggest that’s the case. Even though his body is maxed, Lee is only 20 and might come into another half grade of pop just through maturity. For a middle infielder, an average (or slightly above) hit and power combination would profile in any everyday role. Lee has played shortstop, second and third base. Especially with the death of the shift, it’s much more likely that an athlete with his build ends up at third base. His range already isn’t the best, but he bends well and has above-average hands and actions. Lee is young enough that it’s possible he may yet cut some weight to give himself a better chance of playing a more complete second base, the position where his bat has the best chance of profiling in an everyday role. so he's nick madrigal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, RatkoVarda said: Lee (20 all this year) will be the 2nd youngest player for WMI after Campos. I assume he will share 2b with Gold, 3b with Pacheco, and SS with Workman. Pacheco looks cooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I’m not sure I can handle a Lee on the Tigers. I keep thinking of our Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 44 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Is anyone at all worried that Dombrowski has a history of hyping up his prospects as better than they actually are and bilking other GMs to take them? No. It’s up to the team to see thru the hype. They should be just as knowledgeable as the other guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Pacheco looks cooked. I mean he is 20 in Hi-A, I'd give him another year there before I react too much but currently results aren't great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Could be something. Could be nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1984Echoes Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, oblong said: I’m not sure I can handle a Lee on the Tigers. I keep thinking of our Lee. I can't get Hao Yu out of my mind. I also don't feel attached, or confused, by all the Lee mentions... So I'm just thinking... Hao Yu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I was still hoping for some (at least one?) low-level additional lottery ticket as a throw-in... But... guess not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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